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Ahri vs Talon

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How to Beat Talon as Ahri

based on 2,311 Ahri vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
48.1 %
K/D/A
2.41
Pick Rate
2.1 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter stats from the millions of ranked League of Legends games that we evaluate each week. Our guide on how to beat Talon as Ahri came out of an evaluation of 2311 ranked games where both champs clashed against each other. This particular champ matchup is fairly rare. Ahri fights Talon in only 2.1% of her matches.

Ahri vs Talon Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Ahri does a below average job of countering Talon. Normally, she wins a lowly 48.1% of games the champs clash against each other in. In Ahri vs Talon matches, Ahri’s team is 0.0% more likely to obtain first blood, implying that she most likely will get first blood versus Talon.

Best Ahri vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's RingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeGlowing Mote

Core Ahri Items

~22 Mins
Rabadon's DeathcapStormsurgeLuden's Companion

Optional Items

Liandry's TormentSeraph's EmbraceZhonya's HourglassMalignance

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Ahri to level upq
>
Second ability for Ahri to level upw
>
Last skill for Ahri to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteTaste of BloodEyeball CollectionUltimate Hunter
InspirationBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Ahri's passive ability p
Ahri's q ability q
Ahri's w ability w
Ahri's e ability e
Ahri's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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W
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W
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E
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Guide to Countering Talon as Ahri

Tips for Playing as Ahri against Talon

Initiate team fights using Charm, and chase down stragglers with Spirit Rush.

Spirit Rush enables Ahri's abilities, it opens up paths for Charm, helps double hitting with Orb of Deception, and closes to make use of Fox-Fire.

Use Charm to set up your combos, it will make landing Orb of Deception and Fox-Fire dramatically easier.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Ahri vs Talon Counter Stats

Ahri Image
Win Rate
48.1 %
VS
Win Rate
51.9 %
Talon Image
6.5
< Kills >
8.4
5.8
< Deaths >
6.9
7.5
< Assists >
5.8
1.48
< Killing Sprees >
1.94
170
< Minions Killed >
136
0.07
< Dragons Killed >
0.47
0.42
< Inhibitors >
0.36
1,585
< Physical Damage >
20,899
15,160
< Magic Damage >
72
5,116
< True Damage >
1,182
21,862
< Damage Dealt >
22,154
20,503
< Damage Taken >
27,731
11,491
< Gold Earned >
12,650
1.91
< Towers >
1.43
0.02
< Baron Takedowns >
0.1
4,875
< Total Healing >
6,333
14,463
< Experience >
14,700
20
< Vision Score >
19
10
< Wards Placed >
7
72
< Time Dealing CC >
191

How to Counter Talon with Ahri in LoL

The stats provided here show several vital Ahri against Talon counter stats that can help us realize the differences and similarities between the pair. As an example, Ahri’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Talon’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Ahri may be more central to her team's team fighting effectiveness than Talon..

Ahri normally has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than her matchup does. Typically, she takes less damage than Talon. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also hint that the champion with higher HP has less agility and thus is unable to flee from further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Ahri and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Ahri
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Ahri
Talon

Who is Better, Ahri or Talon?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Ahri usually loses when playing against Talon, with a 48.1% win rate. Therefore, Ahri makes a bad counter for Talon.

While Ahri does have a lower winrate compared to Talon, when facing one another, Ahri also has a lower difficulty level that makes her a less time consuming champion to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Ahri into Talon.

Furthermore, Ahri has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion in League of Legends, in Ahri vs Talon matchups, Talon is the better champ with a lower win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Ahri is a somewhat poor counter to Talon. Make sure you focus your gameplay on maximizing your gold income and taking out objectives. If you do that, you should do very well as Ahri against Talon.

Additional Information for Ahri Players

How We Calculated Our Ahri vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Ahri, we analyzed 2,311 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Ahri comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Ahri in order to counter Talon during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and tips shown above, you will increase your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Ahri usually accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Talon. Champions who on average don't acquire much CS often don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. They are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically need several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers reported here to do well.

The top items to prioritize in your Ahri versus Talon build include Rabadon's Deathcap, Stormsurge, and Luden's Companion. When Ahri included at least these three pieces in her build, she did significantly better when facing Talon than with most other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Ahri boasted an average winrate of 48.1% when playing against Talon with these items in her kit.

To have the best chance of coming out on top against Talon as Ahri, you should take the Electrocute, Taste of Blood, Eyeball Collection, Ultimate Hunter, Biscuit Delivery, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Domination and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players picked for Ahri vs Talon battles, this sequence of runes yielded the highest win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 48.1% win rate overall.

If you would like to see Ahri x Talon tips and counter builds for a a specific division, feel free to select one from the selection menu above. At first, the statistics and guides given are calculated using all games run with these champions.