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Graves vs Ornn

How to Beat Ornn as Graves in LoLGraves is in the s tier of champions
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How to Beat Ornn as Graves

based on 3,841 Graves vs Ornn matchups
Win Rate
49.5 %
K/D/A
2.48
Pick Rate
2.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our matchup stats from the millions of recently ranked League of Legends matches that we review each week. This guide on how to beat Ornn as Graves resulted from an evaluation of 3841 ranked rounds where both champs engaged one another. This particular matchup is somewhat rare. Graves is forced to battle against Ornn in only 2.3% of his matches.

Graves vs Ornn Matchup Summary

Graves has done a ok job of countering Ornn. On average, he wins a acceptable 49.5% of the time the champs battle each other in. In Graves against Ornn rounds, Graves’s team is 0.1% more likely to gain first blood, indicating that he probably will get first blood against Ornn.

Best Graves vs Ornn Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Guardian AngelBlack CleaverYoumuu's Ghostblade

Optional Items

BloodthirsterOpportunityHubrisInfinity Edge

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
>
Second ability for Graves to level upe
>
Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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E
2
Q
3
Q
4
W
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Ornn as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Ornn

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Ornn

Try to stay away from walls. Ornn is much less strong if he cannot stun you.

Attack Ornn to keep him from creating items in lane.

Graves vs Ornn Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
49.5 %
VS
Win Rate
50.5 %
Ornn Image
7.2
< Kills >
3.6
5.8
< Deaths >
4.8
7.2
< Assists >
8.3
1.63
< Killing Sprees >
0.84
52
< Minions Killed >
169
1.59
< Dragons Killed >
0.04
0.47
< Inhibitors >
0.44
18,408
< Physical Damage >
6,185
849
< Magic Damage >
11,963
1,950
< True Damage >
337
21,207
< Damage Dealt >
18,485
30,292
< Damage Taken >
33,504
12,836
< Gold Earned >
10,647
1.72
< Towers >
2.14
0.38
< Baron Takedowns >
0.02
14,222
< Total Healing >
4,160
14,478
< Experience >
14,786
24
< Vision Score >
17
6
< Wards Placed >
8
510
< Time Dealing CC >
575

How to Counter Ornn with Graves in LoL

The stats provided here show several important Graves vs. Ornn matchup stats that can help us distinguish the differences and similarities between the pair. As an example, Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Ornn’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Ornn. This observation is largely fueled by the difference in kills.

Graves normally has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his foe does. On average, he takes less damage than Ornn. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also hint that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Graves and Ornn

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Ornn
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Ornn

Who is Better, Graves or Ornn?

Both League champions are great. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Graves usually fairs equally well when taking on Ornn, with a 49.5% win rate. Therefore, Graves makes an ok counter to Ornn.

While Graves does have a lower win rate than Ornn, when on opposite teams, Graves also has a lower learning curve that makes him a less complex champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Graves into Ornn.

Furthermore, Graves also has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Ornn. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Graves vs Ornn matchups, Ornn is the better champ with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during late stage team fights.

Graves is a somewhat poor counter for Ornn. You will do well by focussing your play on keeping up your CS and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Graves against Ornn.

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Ornn Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Ornn as Graves, we analyzed 3,841 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Ornn as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Graves in order to counter Ornn during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and stats displayed here, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves on average gets a lot less CS compared to Ornn. Champs who on average don't acquire many minion kills typically don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the numbers shown on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to focus on in your Graves versus Ornn build consist of Guardian Angel, Black Cleaver, and Youmuu's Ghostblade. When Graves bought at least these three items in his build, he performed significantly better vs. Ornn than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Graves had an average win rate of 49.5% when countering Ornn with this build.

To have the greatest likelihood of defeating Ornn as Graves, Graves players should use the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the rune builds we have analyed for Graves vs Ornn counterpicks, this combo of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 49.5% winrate overall.

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