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Lucian vs Graves

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How to Beat Graves as Lucian

based on 11,114 Lucian vs Graves matchups
Win Rate
48 %
K/D/A
2.26
Pick Rate
4.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our counter stats from the millions of recently ranked League rounds that we evaluate every week. This guide on how to beat Graves as Lucian came out of an evaluation of 11114 ranked games where both champs engaged each other. This champion matchup is fairly uncommon. Lucian encounters Graves in only 4.8% of his games.

Lucian vs Graves Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Lucian has done a poor job of countering Graves. Normally, he wins a lowly 48.0% of the time the champs oppose each other in. In Lucian versus Graves games, Lucian’s team is 0.1% more probable to earn first blood, implying that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Graves.

Best Lucian vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordDoran's Blade

Early Items

~5 Mins
Kircheis ShardNoonquiver

Core Lucian Items

~22 Mins
BloodthirsterRapid FirecannonVoltaic Cyclosword

Optional Items

Guardian AngelBloodsongThe CollectorImmortal Shieldbow

Summoner Spells

summonerexhaust summoner spell D
summonerflash summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Lucian to level upq
>
Second ability for Lucian to level upe
>
Last skill for Lucian to max outw

Runes

PrecisionPress the AttackPresence of MindLegend: BloodlineCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearBiscuit Delivery
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Lucian's passive ability p
Lucian's q ability q
Lucian's w ability w
Lucian's e ability e
Lucian's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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E
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E
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W
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R

Guide to Countering Graves as Lucian

Tips for Playing as Lucian against Graves

For optimal burst, try to combine Relentless Pursuit into Piercing Light.

Ardent Blaze actually explodes in a star pattern. Try to line it up so the spokes hit enemy champions.

Because of Lightslinger, Lucian benefits more from Attack Damage than he does from Attack Speed.

Once you have chosen an angle for The Culling, you cannot change it. Pick your moment well!

Advice to Win Against Graves

Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.

Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.

Lucian vs Graves Counter Stats

Lucian Image
Win Rate
48 %
VS
Win Rate
52 %
Graves Image
7.5
< Kills >
7.3
6.1
< Deaths >
5.7
6.3
< Assists >
7
1.75
< Killing Sprees >
1.68
188
< Minions Killed >
54
0.18
< Dragons Killed >
1.52
0.48
< Inhibitors >
0.48
18,488
< Physical Damage >
17,836
2,755
< Magic Damage >
837
526
< True Damage >
1,628
21,770
< Damage Dealt >
20,302
20,914
< Damage Taken >
29,418
12,425
< Gold Earned >
12,821
2.34
< Towers >
1.77
0.06
< Baron Takedowns >
0.38
4,930
< Total Healing >
13,794
12,660
< Experience >
14,439
19
< Vision Score >
24
9
< Wards Placed >
6
40
< Time Dealing CC >
491

How to Counter Graves with Lucian in LoL

The stats shown here feature some valuable Lucian versus Graves counter statistics that may help you grasp the differences between the pair. As an example, Lucian’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Graves’s ratio of NaN, showing that Lucian may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Graves..

Lucian normally has a similar longest kill spree as his foe does. Commonly, he receives less damage than Graves. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, but it can also indicate that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to kite away from additional damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Lucian and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Lucian
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Lucian
Graves

Who is Better, Lucian or Graves?

Both League champions are great. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Lucian usually loses when playing against Graves, with a 48.0% win rate. Thus, Lucian makes a poor counter to Graves.

While Lucian does have a lower winrate compared to Graves, when they face off with one another, Lucian also has a much greater difficulty level that makes him a more time consuming champ to develop with. You may get destroyed when picking Lucian into Graves.

Furthermore, Lucian also has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Graves. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Lucian vs Graves matchups, Graves is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Lucian is a trash counter to Graves. Focus your play on increasing your gold income and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should do very well as Lucian against Graves.

Other Champion Matchups Against Lucian

Lucian Loses Against

LilliaLillia45.1% winrateTeemoTeemo45.3% winrateMaokaiMaokai45.6% winrateZyraZyra45.8% winrate

Lucian Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee55.7% winrateYuumiYuumi54.8% winrateSkarnerSkarner53.1% winrateSejuaniSejuani53.1% winrate

Top Synergies by Role

MordekaiserMordekaiser+ 52% 15973 GamesBlitzcrankBlitzcrank+ 52.1% 9216 GamesLilliaLillia+ 53.3% 14707 GamesTaricTaric+ 53.9% 2365 Games

Additional Information for Lucian Players

How We Calculated Our Lucian vs Graves Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Graves as Lucian, we analyzed 11,114 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Graves as Lucian comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Lucian to counter Graves during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and tips shown here, you should increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Lucian most often racks up much more CS compared to Graves. Champions who typically don't take many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually need several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers displayed on this page to do well.

The most important items to use in your Lucian versus Graves build consist of Bloodthirster, Rapid Firecannon, and Voltaic Cyclosword. When Lucian included at least these three items in his build, he performed much better versus Graves than with most other typical counter builds. In fact, Lucian had an average win rate of 48.0% when playing against Graves with this build.

To have the best likelihood of annihilating Graves as Lucian, you should take the Press the Attack, Presence of Mind, Legend: Bloodline, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Biscuit Delivery runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players used for Lucian vs Graves matchups, this combo of runes yielded the highest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 48.0% win rate overall.

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