Background Image
How to Win Swain vs Talon Counter MatchupSwain is in the b tier of champions

Swain vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Swain in LoLSwain is in the a tier of champions
MageFighter
Assassin

How to Beat Talon as Swain

based on 2,911 Swain vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
52.6 %
K/D/A
2.49
Pick Rate
2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter statistics from the millions of recently ranked LoL rounds that we get from Riot Games each week. Our guide on how to beat Talon as Swain came out of an evaluation of 2911 ranked games where both champs fought one another. This champ pairing is somewhat rare. Swain is forced to battle against Talon in only 2.0% of his rounds.

Swain vs Talon Matchup Summary

Swain has done a good job of beating Talon. On average, he wins a whopping 52.6% of the time the champs battle each other in. In Swain against Talon matches, Swain’s side is 0.1% more likely to get first blood. This implies that he probably will get first blood against Talon.

Best Swain vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsLost Chapter

Core Swain Items

~22 Mins
Rylai's Crystal ScepterRiftmakerLiandry's Torment

Optional Items

Frozen HeartZhonya's HourglassRod of AgesCosmic Drive

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerhaste summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Swain to level upq
>
Second ability for Swain to level upw
>
Last skill for Swain to max oute

Runes

SorcerySummon AeryManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
ResolveConditioningOvergrowth
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Swain's passive ability p
Swain's q ability q
Swain's w ability w
Swain's e ability e
Swain's ultimate ability r
1
E
2
Q
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
W
9
Q
10
W
11
R
12
W
13
W
14
E
15
E
16
R

Guide to Countering Talon as Swain

Tips for Playing as Swain against Talon

While laning, try to use Death's Hand's piercing damage to damage opponents from a safe distance.

Vision of Empire is quite difficult to land on its own, look for skirmishes around the map where enemies may be distracted or crowd controlled so you can land it more easily.

If you're having trouble rooting an enemy with Nevermove, try throwing it at opponents when they are near their minions so the explosion surprises them.

Demonic Ascension may make Swain very hard to kill but he's pretty easy to get away from. Try building items that can slow opponents to keep them in range if their mobility is overwhelming.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Swain vs Talon Counter Stats

Swain Image
Win Rate
52.6 %
VS
Win Rate
47.4 %
Talon Image
5.6
< Kills >
8.7
6.5
< Deaths >
7
10.6
< Assists >
6.3
1.26
< Killing Sprees >
1.98
106
< Minions Killed >
136
0.08
< Dragons Killed >
0.4
0.45
< Inhibitors >
0.33
1,484
< Physical Damage >
23,116
20,072
< Magic Damage >
79
860
< True Damage >
1,253
22,418
< Damage Dealt >
24,448
31,701
< Damage Taken >
28,280
10,625
< Gold Earned >
12,729
1.81
< Towers >
1.4
0.02
< Baron Takedowns >
0.09
9,496
< Total Healing >
6,520
12,726
< Experience >
14,619
33
< Vision Score >
18
15
< Wards Placed >
7
372
< Time Dealing CC >
191

How to Counter Talon with Swain in LoL

The stats provided here underscore several significant Swain vs. Talon counter statistics that can help us appreciate the differences and similarities between the two. Swain’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Talon’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Swain may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Talon. This observation is in large part fueled by the differences in assists.

Swain often has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than his matchup does. On average, he receives more damage than Talon. This typically indicates differing health capacities; however, it can also show that the champion with increased health has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Swain and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Swain
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Swain
Talon

Who is Better, Swain or Talon?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Swain usually wins when facing off against Talon, with a 52.6% win rate. Thus, Swain makes a good counter to Talon.

While Swain does have a higher win rate than Talon, when they face off with one another, Swain also has a greater learning curve that makes him a more difficult champion to learn and master. You should be be fine when picking Swain into Talonas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Swain also has some amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Swain vs Talon matchups, Swain is the better champion with a noticably higher win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Swain is a good counter to Talon. You will do well by focussing your gameplay on keeping up your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Swain against Talon.

Additional Information for Swain Players

How We Calculated Our Swain vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Swain, we analyzed 2,911 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Swain comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Swain to counter Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and stats presented here, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Swain on average racks up a similar amount of CS relative to Talon. Champions who on average don't take many minion kills typically don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as supports. They are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require many items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The best items to use in your Swain versus Talon build include Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Riftmaker, and Liandry's Torment. When Swain used at least these three pieces in his build, he performed significantly better countering Talon than with many other common builds. In fact, Swain boasted an average winrate of 52.6% when countering Talon with this build.

To have the highest chance of vanquishing Talon as Swain, Swain players should use the Summon Aery, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Conditioning, and Overgrowth runes from the Sorcery and Resolve rune sets. Of all the rune combinations that we analyzed for Swain vs Talon fights, this combination of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes averaged a 52.6% winrate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Talon as Swain are displayed for all skill levels combined. If you want to narrow the stats and builds to a particular skill level, you can use the selection menu located earlier on the page.