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How to Win Talon vs Ahri Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Ahri

How to Beat Ahri as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Ahri as Talon

based on 2,311 Talon vs Ahri matchups
Win Rate
51.9 %
K/D/A
2.06
Pick Rate
2.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion evaluate millions of ranked League games every week. In our dataset, Talon engaged Ahri in 2311 matches. Having so many games with Talon vs Ahri provides us a lot of confidence in our capacity to produce enlightening statistics and a supported build to destroy your foe. This particular champ matchup is fairly rare. Talon fights Ahri in only 2.8% of his games.

Talon vs Ahri Matchup Summary

Talon has done a decent job of beating Ahri. On average, he wins a acceptable 51.9% of the time the champions face off with one another in. In Talon vs Ahri rounds, Talon’s team is 0.0% more likely to get first blood, implying that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Ahri.

Best Talon vs Ahri Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Gustwalker HatchlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Serylda's GrudgeHubrisYoumuu's GhostbladeVoltaic Cyclosword

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationEyeball CollectionTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
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R
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Guide to Countering Ahri as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Ahri

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Ahri

Stay behind minions to make Charm difficult to land, this will reduce Ahri's damage potential significantly.

Ahri's survivability is dramatically reduced when her Ultimate, Spirit Rush, is down.

Talon vs Ahri Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
51.9 %
VS
Win Rate
48.1 %
Ahri Image
8.4
< Kills >
6.5
6.9
< Deaths >
5.8
5.8
< Assists >
7.5
1.94
< Killing Sprees >
1.48
136
< Minions Killed >
170
0.47
< Dragons Killed >
0.07
0.36
< Inhibitors >
0.42
20,899
< Physical Damage >
1,585
72
< Magic Damage >
15,160
1,182
< True Damage >
5,116
22,154
< Damage Dealt >
21,862
27,731
< Damage Taken >
20,503
12,650
< Gold Earned >
11,491
1.43
< Towers >
1.91
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.02
6,333
< Total Healing >
4,875
14,700
< Experience >
14,463
19
< Vision Score >
20
7
< Wards Placed >
10
191
< Time Dealing CC >
72

How to Counter Ahri with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here emphasize several critical Talon versus Ahri matchup stats that may help you understand the differences and similarities between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Ahri’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Ahri..

Talon often has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his counter does. Typically, he receives more damage than Ahri. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also illustrate that the one champion has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Ahri

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Ahri
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Ahri

Who is Better, Talon or Ahri?

Both LoL champions are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually wins when playing against Ahri, with a 51.9% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a good counter for Ahri.

While Talon does have a higher winrate than Ahri, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a greater learning curve that makes him a more complex champ to learn and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Ahrias his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Ahri. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Ahri matchups, Talon is the better champion with a higher win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Talon is a decent counter for Ahri. Focus your strategy on maximizing your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Ahri.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Ahri Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Ahri as Talon, we analyzed 2,311 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Ahri as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon in order to counter Ahri during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and stats presented above, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average picks up a similar amount of CS relative to Ahri. Champions who typically don't acquire much CS typically don't need much CS to be effective, such as supports. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically need many items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values displayed on this page to do well.

The top items to focus on in your Talon versus Ahri build include Edge of Night, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better when facing Ahri than with many other commonly used builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average win rate of 51.9% when playing against Ahri with this build.

To have the greatest chance of crushing Ahri as Talon, you should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Eyeball Collection, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Out of all the rune combinations players chose for Talon vs Ahri counters, this sequence of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 51.9% win rate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Ahri as Talon are given for every ranked division. If you would like to filter the statistics and builds to a particular division, you may use the selection menu earlier on the page.