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How to Win Talon vs Cho'Gath Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Cho'Gath

How to Beat Cho'Gath as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Cho'Gath as Talon

based on 1,627 Talon vs Cho'Gath matchups
Win Rate
47.5 %
K/D/A
2.16
Pick Rate
2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter statistics from the millions of ranked LoL games that we analyze each week. This guide on how to beat Cho'Gath as Talon resulted from an analysis of 1627 ranked matches where both champions battled one another. This champ pairing is somewhat rare. Talon fights Cho'Gath in only 2.0% of his games.

Talon vs Cho'Gath Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a dismal job of beating Cho'Gath. Normally, he wins a lowly 47.5% of the time the champs oppose one another in. In Talon against Cho'Gath matches, Talon’s side is 0.0% more likely to earn first blood, indicating that he most likely will get first blood versus Cho'Gath.

Best Talon vs Cho'Gath Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordPickaxe

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Serylda's GrudgeAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Edge of NightYoumuu's GhostbladeOpportunityVoltaic Cyclosword

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
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W
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Q
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Q
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Cho'Gath as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Cho'Gath

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Cho'Gath

Focus on preventing Cho'Gath from reaching his max size.

Purchasing a few HP items decreases the chances of Cho'Gath killing you quickly.

Rupture has a smoke cloud indicating the area it will strike. Try to watch out for it to prevent Cho'Gath from being able to combo his abilities.

Talon vs Cho'Gath Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
47.5 %
VS
Win Rate
52.5 %
Cho'Gath Image
8.5
< Kills >
6.1
6.9
< Deaths >
5.5
6.4
< Assists >
6
1.97
< Killing Sprees >
1.39
135
< Minions Killed >
157
0.41
< Dragons Killed >
0.42
0.31
< Inhibitors >
0.48
22,510
< Physical Damage >
3,320
86
< Magic Damage >
13,334
1,225
< True Damage >
3,983
23,822
< Damage Dealt >
20,639
28,014
< Damage Taken >
41,136
12,664
< Gold Earned >
11,527
1.45
< Towers >
2.19
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.17
6,475
< Total Healing >
9,251
14,585
< Experience >
14,793
18
< Vision Score >
19
7
< Wards Placed >
9
194
< Time Dealing CC >
782

How to Counter Cho'Gath with Talon in LoL

The stats shown here emphasize several critical Talon vs. Cho'Gath counter statistics that may help us explain the differences between the two. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Cho'Gath’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Cho'Gath..

Talon normally has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his matchup does. On average, he receives less damage than Cho'Gath. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also show that the one champion has less agility and thus is not able to kite away from additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Cho'Gath

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Cho'Gath
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Cho'Gath

Who is Better, Talon or Cho'Gath?

Both LoL champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when facing off against Cho'Gath, with a 47.5% win rate. Therefore, Talon makes a bad counter to Cho'Gath.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Cho'Gath, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more challenging character to develop with. You should be very concerned when picking Talon into Cho'Gathas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Cho'Gath. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Cho'Gath matchups, Cho'Gath is the better champion with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during late stage team fights.

Talon is a bad counter for Cho'Gath. Make sure you focus your play on increasing your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Cho'Gath.

Other Champion Matchups Against Talon

Talon Loses Against

TaricTaric44.5% winrateBel'VethBel'Veth45.4% winrateKayleKayle45.5% winrateBardBard45.5% winrate

Talon Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee58.9% winrateSkarnerSkarner58% winrateNunu & WillumpNunu & Willump53.7% winrateXayahXayah53.5% winrate

Top Synergies by Role

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Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Cho'Gath Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Cho'Gath as Talon, we analyzed 1,627 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Cho'Gath as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Cho'Gath during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown here, you should increase your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon most often racks up a similar amount of CS as Cho'Gath. Champs who typically don't get many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The ideal items to focus on in your Talon versus Cho'Gath build include Serylda's Grudge, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon bought at least these three items in his build, he did much better when facing Cho'Gath than with most other common counter builds. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 47.5% when countering Cho'Gath with this counter build.

To have the greatest likelihood of beating Cho'Gath as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune combinations players chose for Talon vs Cho'Gath LoL games, this composite of runes yielded the highest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 47.5% winrate overall.

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