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Talon vs Gragas

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How to Beat Gragas as Talon

based on 1,504 Talon vs Gragas matchups
Win Rate
49.7 %
K/D/A
2.12
Pick Rate
1.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our matchup statistics from the millions of rated League of Legends rounds that we review each and every week. Our guide on how to beat Gragas as Talon came out of an evaluation of 1504 ranked rounds where both champs clashed against one another. This counter pairing is relatively rare. Talon encounters Gragas in only 1.8% of his games.

Talon vs Gragas Matchup Summary

Talon has done a average job of beating Gragas. Normally, he wins a acceptable 49.7% of games the champions fight one another in. In Talon vs Gragas matches, Talon’s team is 0.0% more likely to get first blood. This implies that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Gragas.

Best Talon vs Gragas Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeSerylda's GrudgeAxiom Arc

Optional Items

Edge of NightHubrisOpportunityProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
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W
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Guide to Countering Gragas as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Gragas

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Gragas

Body Slam is on a very low cooldown, making it difficult to pursue Gragas. Don't overextend yourself chasing him.

Gragas can knock everybody away with his ultimate. Be careful that you don't get knocked into him or, worse, an enemy tower.

Talon vs Gragas Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.7 %
VS
Win Rate
50.3 %
Gragas Image
8.5
< Kills >
6
6.9
< Deaths >
5.9
6.1
< Assists >
7
1.96
< Killing Sprees >
1.39
138
< Minions Killed >
115
0.47
< Dragons Killed >
0.56
0.35
< Inhibitors >
0.38
21,636
< Physical Damage >
1,528
80
< Magic Damage >
18,623
1,209
< True Damage >
606
22,926
< Damage Dealt >
20,757
28,195
< Damage Taken >
30,072
12,809
< Gold Earned >
11,439
1.43
< Towers >
1.5
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.13
6,588
< Total Healing >
12,302
14,801
< Experience >
14,306
19
< Vision Score >
21
6
< Wards Placed >
8
192
< Time Dealing CC >
423

How to Counter Gragas with Talon in LoL

The stats shown on this page feature several vital Talon vs. Gragas matchup stats that may help you realize the distinctions between these two champions. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Gragas’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Gragas..

Talon usually has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his matchup does. On average, he receives a similar amount of damage to Gragas. This is usually reflective of different amounts of tankyness, but it can also show that the champion with more health has less agility and thus is unable to escape additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Gragas

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Gragas
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Gragas

Who is Better, Talon or Gragas?

Both LoL champions are great. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when taking on Gragas, with a 49.7% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter for Gragas.

While Talon does have a lower win rate compared to Gragas, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater difficulty level that makes him a more challenging character to learn and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Gragasas his relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Talon also has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Gragas. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Gragas matchups, Gragas is the better champ with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Gragas. Make sure you focus your play on increasing your gold and cs and taking out objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Gragas.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Gragas Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Gragas as Talon, we analyzed 1,504 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Gragas as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Gragas during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and tips shown above, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon usually picks up a similar amount of CS relative to Gragas. Champions who typically don't earn much CS often don't need much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the numbers shown on this page to do well.

The ideal items to have in your Talon versus Gragas build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Serylda's Grudge, and Axiom Arc. When Talon bought at least these three pieces in his build, he performed much better versus Gragas than with many other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 49.7% when countering Gragas with this build.

To have the highest likelihood of coming out on top against Gragas as Talon, you should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players chose for Talon vs Gragas battles, this blending of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 49.7% win rate overall.

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