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Talon vs Ivern

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How to Beat Ivern as Talon

based on 944 Talon vs Ivern matchups
Win Rate
48 %
K/D/A
2.22
Pick Rate
1.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter statistics from the millions of recently rated League of Legends rounds that we evaluate each and every week. This guide on how to beat Ivern as Talon resulted from an evaluation of 944 ranked games where both champs battled each other. This particular counter matchup is relatively rare. Talon has to counter Ivern in only 1.2% of his rounds.

Talon vs Ivern Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a poor job of countering Ivern. Typically, he wins a lowly 48.0% of games the champions battle one another in. In Talon versus Ivern matches, Talon’s side is 0.0% more likely to obtain first blood. This implies that he probably will get first blood against Ivern.

Best Talon vs Ivern Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordPickaxe

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeSerpent's FangOpportunity

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
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W
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Q
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Guide to Countering Ivern as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Ivern

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Ivern

Be careful when fighting Ivern alone if he has Daisy ready to help!

Ivern's brush has a long duration. Watch out for ambushes!

Ivern can be deceptively slippery. Be careful chasing him too far.

Talon vs Ivern Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
48 %
VS
Win Rate
52 %
Ivern Image
8.3
< Kills >
2.4
6.3
< Deaths >
4.9
5.7
< Assists >
13.7
1.94
< Killing Sprees >
0.52
140
< Minions Killed >
18
0.42
< Dragons Killed >
1.17
0.36
< Inhibitors >
0.57
21,046
< Physical Damage >
2,682
74
< Magic Damage >
5,907
1,089
< True Damage >
1,045
22,210
< Damage Dealt >
9,635
26,654
< Damage Taken >
17,391
12,584
< Gold Earned >
9,836
1.41
< Towers >
1.94
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.33
6,355
< Total Healing >
6,346
14,348
< Experience >
12,571
18
< Vision Score >
26
6
< Wards Placed >
7
189
< Time Dealing CC >
263

How to Counter Ivern with Talon in LoL

The stats shown here emphasize several strategic Talon against Ivern counter statistics that can help us grasp the differences between this pair of champions. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Ivern’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Ivern. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon typically has a much larger longest killing spree than his foe does. Typically, he takes more damage than Ivern. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities; however, it can also imply that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Ivern

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Ivern
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Ivern

Who is Better, Talon or Ivern?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when playing against Ivern, with a 48.0% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a bad counter for Ivern.

While Talon does have a lower win rate compared to Ivern, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater learning curve that makes him a more complex champion to pick up and master. You should be very concerned when picking Talon into Ivernas his relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Ivern. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Ivern matchups, Ivern is the better champ with a lower win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Talon is a bad counter to Ivern. You will do well by focussing your tactics on increasing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Talon against Ivern.

Other Champion Matchups Against Talon

Talon Loses Against

TaricTaric44.5% winrateBel'VethBel'Veth45.4% winrateKayleKayle45.5% winrateBardBard45.5% winrate

Talon Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee58.9% winrateSkarnerSkarner58% winrateNunu & WillumpNunu & Willump53.7% winrateXayahXayah53.5% winrate

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Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Ivern Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Ivern as Talon, we analyzed 944 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Ivern as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Ivern during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions displayed here, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon most often accumulates much more CS relative to Ivern. Champions who on average don't acquire many minion kills often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually have to have several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the values shown here to do well.

The best items to have in your Talon versus Ivern build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon included at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better against Ivern than with most other typical builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 48.0% when playing against Ivern with this build.

To have the greatest chance of beating Ivern as Talon, Talon players should use the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune builds we have analyed for Talon vs Ivern fights, this combo of runes yielded the highest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 48.0% win rate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Ivern as Talon are given for all ranked divisions combined. To narrow the statistics and builds to a particular rank, you may use the selection menu earlier on the page.