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How to Win Thresh vs Talon Counter MatchupThresh is in the a tier of champions

Thresh vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Thresh in LoLThresh is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Thresh

based on 3,275 Thresh vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
50 %
K/D/A
2.65
Pick Rate
2.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of ranked League games every week. In our data, Thresh engaged Talon 3275 times. With so many matchups for Thresh versus Talon provides us faith in our capacity to provide actionable data and a solid build to destroy your rival. This matchup is relatively rare. Thresh has to counter Talon in only 2.2% of his games.

Thresh vs Talon Matchup Summary

Thresh has done a average job of beating Talon. Normally, he wins a acceptable 50.0% of games the champions oppose one another in. In Thresh vs Talon rounds, Thresh’s side is 0.1% more likely to gain first blood, implying that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Talon.

Best Thresh vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsMobility Boots

Core Thresh Items

~22 Mins
Zeke's ConvergenceKnight's VowSolstice Sleigh

Optional Items

Force of NatureKaenic RookernFrozen HeartTrailblazer

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Thresh to level upq
>
Second ability for Thresh to level upe
>
Last skill for Thresh to max outw

Runes

InspirationGlacial AugmentHextech FlashtraptionBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
ResolveBone PlatingUnflinching
Ability HasteArmorHealth Scaling
Thresh's passive ability p
Thresh's q ability q
Thresh's w ability w
Thresh's e ability e
Thresh's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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E
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Guide to Countering Talon as Thresh

Tips for Playing as Thresh against Talon

Communication is key when making use of Thresh's lantern. Let your teammates know how you like to use it.

Death Sentence and Flay can be combined in either cast order for powerful combinations.

Thresh can collect souls without needing to kill units himself. Planning your map position to be near the most deaths will help to maximize soul collection.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Thresh vs Talon Counter Stats

Thresh Image
Win Rate
50 %
VS
Win Rate
50 %
Talon Image
2.2
< Kills >
8.2
6.3
< Deaths >
6.8
14.5
< Assists >
6.5
0.41
< Killing Sprees >
1.88
34
< Minions Killed >
136
0.05
< Dragons Killed >
0.45
0.5
< Inhibitors >
0.36
1,250
< Physical Damage >
20,920
7,360
< Magic Damage >
82
795
< True Damage >
1,224
9,406
< Damage Dealt >
22,226
22,122
< Damage Taken >
27,696
8,726
< Gold Earned >
12,634
1.81
< Towers >
1.46
0.01
< Baron Takedowns >
0.09
2,435
< Total Healing >
6,469
10,803
< Experience >
14,587
58
< Vision Score >
18
25
< Wards Placed >
6
264
< Time Dealing CC >
193

How to Counter Talon with Thresh in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page show several influential Thresh vs. Talon counter stats that may help you explain the differences and similarities between the pair. As an example, Thresh’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Talon’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Thresh may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Talon. This observation is in large part a result of the differences in assists.

Thresh often has a significantly smaller longest kill spree than his enemy does. On average, he receives less damage than Talon. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities; however, it can also hint that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to kite away from further harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Thresh and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Thresh
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Thresh
Talon

Who is Better, Thresh or Talon?

Both League champs are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Thresh usually fairs equally well when playing against Talon, with a 50.0% win rate. As a result, Thresh makes an ok counter for Talon.

While Thresh does have a higher winrate than Talon, when facing one another, Thresh also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more complex champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Thresh into Talonas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Thresh has a very large amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion in League of Legends, in Thresh vs Talon matchups, Talon is the better champ with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during team fights.

Thresh is a decent counter to Talon. You will do well by focussing your gameplay on increasing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Thresh against Talon.

Additional Information for Thresh Players

How We Calculated Our Thresh vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Thresh, we analyzed 3,275 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Thresh comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Thresh to counter Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown here, you will increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Thresh usually gets a lot less CS compared to Talon. Champs who on average don't earn many minion kills often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as supports. They are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the values displayed on this page to do well.

The best items to focus on in your Thresh versus Talon build consist of Zeke's Convergence, Knight's Vow, and Solstice Sleigh. When Thresh incorporated at least these three items in his build, he did much better when fighting Talon than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Thresh boasted an average winrate of 50.0% when playing against Talon with this build.

To have the greatest probability of crushing Talon as Thresh, Thresh players should use the Glacial Augment, Hextech Flashtraption, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, Bone Plating, and Unflinching runes from the Inspiration and Resolve rune sets. Of all the runes players chose for Thresh vs Talon fights, this sequence of runes yielded the greatest win rate. In fact, these runes provided a 50.0% win rate overall.

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