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Graves vs Gwen

How to Beat Gwen as Graves in LoLGraves is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Gwen as Graves

based on 3,619 Graves vs Gwen matchups
Win Rate
52.1 %
K/D/A
2.62
Pick Rate
2.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our counter statistics from the millions of recently rated League of Legends games that we analyze every week. Our guide on how to beat Gwen as Graves resulted from an examination of 3619 ranked matches where both champions clashed against each other. This particular counter pairing is fairly rare. Graves has to counter Gwen in only 2.2% of his matches.

Graves vs Gwen Matchup Summary

Graves has done a good job of beating Gwen. Typically, he wins a terrific 52.1% of matches the champs clash against each other in. In Graves against Gwen rounds, Graves’s team is 0.1% more expected to gain first blood, implying that he probably will be able to get first blood against Gwen.

Best Graves vs Gwen Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordCaulfield's Warhammer

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeMaw of MalmortiusVoltaic Cyclosword

Optional Items

OpportunityInfinity EdgeGuardian AngelBloodthirster

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
>
Second ability for Graves to level upe
>
Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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E
2
Q
3
Q
4
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Gwen as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Gwen

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Gwen

Gwen must hit something to recast her Ultimate, try to evade her between casts.

Gwen needs to attack a few times to set up her damage, so try to get the jump on her.

Gwen's Hallowed Mist shroud will only follow her once, after that it will dissipate when she leaves.

Graves vs Gwen Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
52.1 %
VS
Win Rate
47.9 %
Gwen Image
7.4
< Kills >
5.9
5.5
< Deaths >
5.9
7
< Assists >
4.4
1.67
< Killing Sprees >
1.35
53
< Minions Killed >
162
1.55
< Dragons Killed >
0.3
0.48
< Inhibitors >
0.58
17,406
< Physical Damage >
2,939
795
< Magic Damage >
15,144
1,555
< True Damage >
3,595
19,756
< Damage Dealt >
21,678
28,871
< Damage Taken >
29,994
12,731
< Gold Earned >
12,080
1.76
< Towers >
2.66
0.36
< Baron Takedowns >
0.09
13,696
< Total Healing >
7,958
14,381
< Experience >
14,907
23
< Vision Score >
17
6
< Wards Placed >
8
487
< Time Dealing CC >
155

How to Counter Gwen with Graves in LoL

The stats provided here underscore several valuable Graves vs. Gwen matchup statistics that may help us interpret the distinctions between the pair. As an example, Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Gwen’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Gwen..

Graves often has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his matchup does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Gwen. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also imply that the one champ has less agility and thus is unable to escape further damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Graves and Gwen

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Gwen
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Gwen

Who is Better, Graves or Gwen?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Graves usually wins when trying to fight Gwen, with a 52.1% win rate. As a result, Graves makes a good counter to Gwen.

While Graves does have a higher winrate compared to Gwen, when they face off with one another, Graves also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less complex champion to develop with. You should be be fine when picking Graves into Gwen.

Moreover, Graves also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Gwen. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Graves vs Gwen matchups, Graves is the better champion with a noticably higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Graves is a good counter to Gwen. Focus your tactics on maximizing your CS and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Graves against Gwen.

Other Champion Matchups Against Graves

Graves Loses Against

ZyraZyra46.8% winrateBardBard47.1% winrateNaafiriNaafiri47.2% winrateTahm KenchTahm Kench47.3% winrate

Graves Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee55.6% winrateLeBlancLeBlanc55.2% winrateXayahXayah55% winrateKai'SaKai'Sa54.7% winrate

Top Synergies by Role

TeemoTeemo+ 54.2% 11371 GamesZyraZyra+ 54.3% 6861 GamesMaokaiMaokai+ 54.6% 6548 GamesLilliaLillia+ 55.7% 1241 Games

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Gwen Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Gwen as Graves, we analyzed 3,619 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Gwen as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Graves in order to counter Gwen during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you listen to the build and stats presented here, you will increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves most often gets a lot less CS as Gwen. Champions who typically don't get many minion kills typically don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the numbers shown on this page to do well.

The ideal items to prioritize in your Graves versus Gwen build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Maw of Malmortius, and Voltaic Cyclosword. When Graves incorporated at least these three items in his build, he did significantly better countering Gwen than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Graves had an average winrate of 52.1% when countering Gwen with these items in his kit.

To have the highest probability of defeating Gwen as Graves, you should use the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players used for Graves vs Gwen counters, this sequence of runes yielded the best win rate. Moreover, these runes averaged a 52.1% win rate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Gwen as Graves are displayed for all skill levels combined. If you want to narrow the statistics and builds to a particular player tier, you should use the selection menu at the top of this page.