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How to Win Ornn vs Talon Counter MatchupOrnn is in the s tier of champions

Ornn vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Ornn in LoLOrnn is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Ornn

based on 1,842 Ornn vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
50.7 %
K/D/A
2.48
Pick Rate
2.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we evaluate millions of recently ranked League of Legends rounds every week. Within our dataset, Ornn faced off against Talon 1842 times. With so many matchups for Ornn versus Talon provides us a lot of confidence in our capacity to prepare actionable stats and a pro build to wreck your opponent. This particular counter matchup is somewhat rare. Ornn encounters Talon in only 2.2% of his rounds.

Ornn vs Talon Matchup Summary

Ornn does a average job of countering Talon. Normally, he wins a acceptable 50.7% of games the champions clash against one another in. In Ornn against Talon games, Ornn’s team is 0.1% less likely to gain first blood. This implies that he most likely won't be able to get first blood against Talon.

Best Ornn vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's ShieldHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Cloth ArmorChain Vest

Core Ornn Items

~22 Mins
Sunfire AegisThornmailHope Adrift

Optional Items

Jak'Sho, The ProteanLeviathanFrozen HeartThe Unspoken Parasite

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerteleport summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Ornn to level upw
>
Second ability for Ornn to level upe
>
Last skill for Ornn to max outq

Runes

ResolveGrasp of the UndyingDemolishBone PlatingOvergrowth
InspirationMagical FootwearBiscuit Delivery
Attack SpeedMagic ResistMagic Resist
Ornn's passive ability p
Ornn's q ability q
Ornn's w ability w
Ornn's e ability e
Ornn's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
W
3
E
4
W
5
W
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R
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W
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E
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Guide to Countering Talon as Ornn

Tips for Playing as Ornn against Talon

Volcanic Rupture can be used to set up zoning areas to threaten enemies.

Learning build paths of items can help quickly select upgrades in lane.

The order of your abilties matters! Try to optimize Brittle usage.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Ornn vs Talon Counter Stats

Ornn Image
Win Rate
50.7 %
VS
Win Rate
49.3 %
Talon Image
3.9
< Kills >
8.6
5
< Deaths >
6.9
8.5
< Assists >
6.2
0.9
< Killing Sprees >
1.94
170
< Minions Killed >
137
0.06
< Dragons Killed >
0.46
0.43
< Inhibitors >
0.35
6,519
< Physical Damage >
22,030
12,694
< Magic Damage >
84
364
< True Damage >
1,252
19,578
< Damage Dealt >
23,367
34,280
< Damage Taken >
28,233
10,844
< Gold Earned >
12,818
2.15
< Towers >
1.48
0.01
< Baron Takedowns >
0.1
4,146
< Total Healing >
6,642
15,040
< Experience >
14,699
17
< Vision Score >
19
8
< Wards Placed >
6
570
< Time Dealing CC >
196

How to Counter Talon with Ornn in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here emphasize several important Ornn against Talon counter stats that may help you distinguish the differences and similarities between the two. Ornn’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Talon’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Ornn may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Talon..

Ornn normally has a significantly smaller longest killing spree than his matchup does. Typically, he takes more damage than Talon. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, but it can also show that the champion with more health has less agility and thus is not able to kite away from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Ornn and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Ornn
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Ornn
Talon

Who is Better, Ornn or Talon?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Ornn usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Talon, with a 50.7% win rate. Thus, Ornn makes an ok counter for Talon.

While Ornn does have a higher winrate than Talon, when on opposite teams, Ornn also has a lower difficulty level that makes him a less difficult character to learn. You should be careful when picking Ornn into Talon.

Furthermore, Ornn has a good amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion in League of Legends, in Ornn vs Talon matchups, Ornn is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Ornn is a decent counter to Talon. You will do well by focussing your play on keeping up your gold income and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Ornn against Talon.

Additional Information for Ornn Players

How We Calculated Our Ornn vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Ornn, we analyzed 1,842 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Ornn comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Ornn in order to counter Talon during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions shown here, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Ornn on average racks up a similar amount of CS as Talon. Champions who on average don't acquire many minion kills typically don't need much CS to be effective, such as supports. They are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the values displayed here to do well.

The most important items to use in your Ornn versus Talon build include Sunfire Aegis, Thornmail, and Hope Adrift. When Ornn included at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better against Talon than with most other commonly used builds. In fact, Ornn boasted an average winrate of 50.7% battling Talon with these items in his kit.

To have the greatest probability of beating Talon as Ornn, Ornn players should use the Grasp of the Undying, Demolish, Bone Plating, Overgrowth, Magical Footwear, and Biscuit Delivery runes from the Resolve and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players used for Ornn vs Talon fights, this composite of runes resulted in the highest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 50.7% win rate overall.

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