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Thresh vs Graves

How to Beat Graves as Thresh in LoLThresh is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Graves as Thresh

based on 6,920 Thresh vs Graves matchups
Win Rate
48.9 %
K/D/A
2.68
Pick Rate
4.7 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our matchup statistics from the millions of ranked LoL matches that we review each week. Our guide on how to beat Graves as Thresh came out of an examination of 6920 ranked rounds where both champions fought each other. This particular matchup is somewhat uncommon. Thresh fights Graves in only 4.7% of his matches.

Thresh vs Graves Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Thresh does a dismal job of beating Graves. On average, he wins a acceptable 48.9% of matches the champions face each other in. In Thresh versus Graves rounds, Thresh’s team is 0.1% more probable to gain first blood, implying that he probably will get first blood against Graves.

Best Thresh vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Cloth ArmorNull-Magic Mantle

Core Thresh Items

~22 Mins
Zeke's ConvergenceFrozen HeartCelestial Opposition

Optional Items

Kaenic RookernRedemptionForce of NatureThornmail

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Thresh to level upq
>
Second ability for Thresh to level upe
>
Last skill for Thresh to max outw

Runes

ResolveAftershockFont of LifeBone PlatingUnflinching
InspirationBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
Ability HasteArmorArmor
Thresh's passive ability p
Thresh's q ability q
Thresh's w ability w
Thresh's e ability e
Thresh's ultimate ability r
1
Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
E
9
Q
10
E
11
R
12
E
13
E
14
W
15
W
16
R

Guide to Countering Graves as Thresh

Tips for Playing as Thresh against Graves

Communication is key when making use of Thresh's lantern. Let your teammates know how you like to use it.

Death Sentence and Flay can be combined in either cast order for powerful combinations.

Thresh can collect souls without needing to kill units himself. Planning your map position to be near the most deaths will help to maximize soul collection.

Advice to Win Against Graves

Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.

Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.

Thresh vs Graves Counter Stats

Thresh Image
Win Rate
48.9 %
VS
Win Rate
51.1 %
Graves Image
2.1
< Kills >
7.1
6
< Deaths >
5.8
14
< Assists >
7.3
0.37
< Killing Sprees >
1.65
34
< Minions Killed >
53
0.04
< Dragons Killed >
1.53
0.48
< Inhibitors >
0.49
1,166
< Physical Damage >
17,272
6,995
< Magic Damage >
842
767
< True Damage >
1,696
8,928
< Damage Dealt >
19,811
21,555
< Damage Taken >
29,154
8,531
< Gold Earned >
12,736
1.8
< Towers >
1.79
0.01
< Baron Takedowns >
0.37
2,421
< Total Healing >
13,579
10,481
< Experience >
14,329
57
< Vision Score >
23
24
< Wards Placed >
6
255
< Time Dealing CC >
496

How to Counter Graves with Thresh in LoL

The stats shown here emphasize several strategic Thresh against Graves matchup statistics that can help us interpret the differences between this set of champions. As an example, Thresh’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Graves’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Thresh may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Graves. This observation is in large part fueled by the differences in assists.

Thresh usually has a significantly smaller longest kill spree than his counter does. On average, he receives less damage than Graves. This typically indicates differing health capacities; however, it can also show that the champ with increased HP has less mobility and thus is unable to escape additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Thresh and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Thresh
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Thresh
Graves

Who is Better, Thresh or Graves?

Both League of Legends champs are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Thresh usually loses when playing against Graves, with a 48.9% win rate. Therefore, Thresh makes a poor counter to Graves.

While Thresh does have a lower winrate than Graves, when on opposite teams, Thresh also has a much greater learning curve that makes him a more time consuming champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Thresh into Gravesas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Thresh has a great amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Graves. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Thresh vs Graves matchups, Graves is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Thresh is a somewhat poor counter to Graves. Make sure you focus your actions on maximizing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Thresh against Graves.

Additional Information for Thresh Players

How We Calculated Our Thresh vs Graves Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Graves as Thresh, we analyzed 6,920 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Graves as Thresh comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Thresh in order to counter Graves during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and tips presented above, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Thresh most often gets less CS as Graves. Champs who on average don't earn much CS typically don't require much CS to be effective, such as supports. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need many items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the values reported here to do well.

The most crucial items to use in your Thresh versus Graves build include Zeke's Convergence, Frozen Heart, and Celestial Opposition. When Thresh incorporated at least these three items in his build, he did much better when facing Graves than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Thresh had an average win rate of 48.9% when countering Graves with this build.

To have the greatest likelihood of defeating Graves as Thresh, you should take the Aftershock, Font of Life, Bone Plating, Unflinching, Cosmic Insight, and Biscuit Delivery runes from the Resolve and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the runes players chose for Thresh vs Graves matchups, this blending of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 48.9% winrate overall.

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