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How to Win Veigar vs Graves Counter MatchupVeigar is in the b tier of champions

Veigar vs Graves

How to Beat Graves as Veigar in LoLVeigar is in the a tier of champions
Mage
Marksman

How to Beat Graves as Veigar

based on 5,071 Veigar vs Graves matchups
Win Rate
48.5 %
K/D/A
2.15
Pick Rate
3.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of recently ranked League rounds each and every week. Within our dataset, Veigar faced Graves in 5071 rounds. Using so many games with Veigar vs Graves gives us faith in our ability to provide actionable stats and a pro build to destroy Graves. This counter pairing is fairly rare. Veigar encounters Graves in only 3.8% of his games.

Veigar vs Graves Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Veigar has done a dismal job of beating Graves. Normally, he wins a acceptable 48.5% of games the champs oppose each other in. In Veigar vs Graves rounds, Veigar’s team is 0.1% less likely to earn first blood, indicating that he most likely won't get first blood against Graves.

Best Veigar vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeLost Chapter

Core Veigar Items

~22 Mins
Seraph's EmbraceRabadon's DeathcapStormsurge

Optional Items

CryptbloomZhonya's HourglassBanshee's VeilMalignance

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerteleport summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Veigar to level upq
>
Second ability for Veigar to level upw
>
Last skill for Veigar to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
SorceryManaflow BandTranscendence
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceArmor
Veigar's passive ability p
Veigar's q ability q
Veigar's w ability w
Veigar's e ability e
Veigar's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
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Q
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R
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Guide to Countering Graves as Veigar

Tips for Playing as Veigar against Graves

Veigar is extremely Mana and Cooldown Reduction dependent. Try buying items with these stats in order to increase the effectiveness of your passive and Baleful Strike.

Veigar is very fragile. It is valuable to select at least one summoner spell that can be used defensively.

Use Event Horizon to increase your chances of landing Dark Matter.

Advice to Win Against Graves

Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.

Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.

Veigar vs Graves Counter Stats

Veigar Image
Win Rate
48.5 %
VS
Win Rate
51.5 %
Graves Image
6.9
< Kills >
7.2
6
< Deaths >
5.7
6
< Assists >
6.9
1.57
< Killing Sprees >
1.66
173
< Minions Killed >
55
0.12
< Dragons Killed >
1.63
0.5
< Inhibitors >
0.5
649
< Physical Damage >
17,179
21,841
< Magic Damage >
866
532
< True Damage >
1,612
23,024
< Damage Dealt >
19,658
19,122
< Damage Taken >
30,502
12,164
< Gold Earned >
12,861
2.06
< Towers >
1.72
0.04
< Baron Takedowns >
0.37
1,995
< Total Healing >
14,254
14,550
< Experience >
14,730
21
< Vision Score >
24
11
< Wards Placed >
6
87
< Time Dealing CC >
496

How to Counter Graves with Veigar in LoL

The stats shown here emphasize several strategic Veigar against Graves counter stats that can help us interpret the distinctions between the pair. As an example, Veigar’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Graves’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Veigar may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Graves..

Veigar usually has a similar longest kill spree as his opponent does. Typically, he receives less damage than Graves. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also indicate that the champ with increased health has less agility and thus is not able to escape additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Veigar and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Veigar
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Veigar
Graves

Who is Better, Veigar or Graves?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Veigar usually loses when facing off against Graves, with a 48.5% win rate. As a result, Veigar makes a poor counter for Graves.

While Veigar does have a lower win rate than Graves, when they face off with one another, Veigar also has a much greater difficulty level that makes him a more difficult champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Veigar into Gravesas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Veigar has a good amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Graves. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion in League of Legends, in Veigar vs Graves matchups, Graves is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Veigar is a somewhat poor counter for Graves. Make sure you focus your strategy on keeping up your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Veigar against Graves.

Additional Information for Veigar Players

How We Calculated Our Veigar vs Graves Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Graves as Veigar, we analyzed 5,071 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Graves as Veigar comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Veigar to counter Graves during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and tips shown above, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Veigar most often accumulates much more CS as Graves. Champions who typically don't earn many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be effective, such as support champions. They are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the values displayed on this page to do well.

The ideal items to prioritize in your Veigar versus Graves build include Seraph's Embrace, Rabadon's Deathcap, and Stormsurge. When Veigar bought at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better countering Graves than with many other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Veigar boasted an average winrate of 48.5% when playing against Graves with this build.

To have the best likelihood of coming out on top against Graves as Veigar, you should equip the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, Manaflow Band, and Transcendence runes from the Inspiration and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players chose for Veigar vs Graves counters, this order of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 48.5% winrate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Graves as Veigar are given for every ranked division. If you would like to scope the statistics and builds to a specific rank, you may use the selection menu located earlier on the page.