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Elise vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Elise in LoL Talon is in the s tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Elise

based on 456 Elise vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
44.1 %
K/D/A
2.34
Pick Rate
1.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we summarize millions of recently ranked League of Legends matches each week. Within our database, Elise did battle with Talon in 456 rounds. Using so many matchups for Elise versus Talon gives us a lot of faith in our ability to produce informative stats and a supported build to crush Talon. This champion pairing is somewhat rare. Elise fights Talon in only 1.8% of her matches.

Elise vs Talon Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Elise does a terrible job of countering Talon. Typically, she wins a lowly 44.1% of the time the champs face each other in. In Elise against Talon matches, Elise’s team is 0.1% more probable to obtain first blood. This implies that she most likely will get first blood versus Talon.

Best Elise vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
HailbladeRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Dark SealSorcerer's Shoes

Core Elise Items

~22 Mins
Night HarvesterZhonya's HourglassShadowflame

Optional Items

Lich BaneVoid Staff

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Elise to level up q
>
Second ability for Elise to level up w
>
Last skill for Elise to max out e

Runes

Domination Electrocute Cheap ShotEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
Sorcery Nimbus CloakWaterwalking
AttackSpeed Adaptive Armor
Elise's passive ability p
Elise q ability q
Elise w ability w
Elise e ability e
Elise's ultimate ability r
1
W
2
Q
3
E
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
W
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Q
10
W
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R
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W
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W
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E
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Talon as Elise

Tips for Playing as Elise against Talon

Elise's Spider Form and Spider Form abilities do not cost mana and can be prioritized when you are trying to conserve mana.

When in Spider Form, Spiderlings will attack the target that Elise uses Venomous Bite on.

Spider Form is most effective at finishing off enemies with low health; Human Form's Neurotoxin does more damage to healthy foes.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Elise vs Talon Counter Stats

Elise Image
Win Rate
44.1 %
VS
Win Rate
55.9 %
Talon Image
7.1
< Kills >
8.2
6.1
< Deaths >
6.2
7.2
< Assists >
6.7
1.63
< Killing Sprees >
1.88
34
< Minions Killed >
101
1.23
< Dragons Killed >
0.75
0.47
< Inhibitors >
0.38
1,320
< Physical Damage >
19,509
15,484
< Magic Damage >
74
1,262
< True Damage >
1,601
18,068
< Damage Dealt >
21,184
26,077
< Damage Taken >
26,338
10,952
< Gold Earned >
12,543
1.68
< Towers >
1.28
0.25
< Baron Takedowns >
0.16
7,787
< Total Healing >
5,645
12,067
< Experience >
13,713
24
< Vision Score >
20
6
< Wards Placed >
6
153
< Time Dealing CC >
239

How to Counter Talon with Elise in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page feature several significant Elise vs. Talon counter statistics that can help us distinguish the distinctions between the pair. As an example, Elise’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Talon’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Elise may be more central to her team's team fighting capability than Talon..

Elise usually has a similar longest kill spree as her counter does. On average, she receives a similar amount of damage to Talon. This often reflects differing health capacities, but it can also imply that the champion with higher HP has less mobility and thus is unable to escape additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Elise and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Elise
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Elise
Talon

Who is Better, Elise or Talon?

Both LoL champs are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Elise usually loses when facing off against Talon, with a 44.1% win rate. As a result, Elise makes a poor counter to Talon.

While Elise does have a much lower win rate than Talon, when facing one another, Elise also has a greater level of difficulty that makes her a more time consuming character to learn and master. You should expect to face a difficult match when picking Elise into Talonas her relative depth means you may not be able to unleash her full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Elise has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Elise vs Talon matchups, Talon is the better champion with a much lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Elise is a garbage counter for Talon. You will do well by focussing your strategy on keeping up your CS and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Elise against Talon.

Additional Information for Elise Players

How We Calculated Our Elise vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Elise, we analyzed 456 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Elise comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Elise to counter Talon during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and stats presented above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Elise on average picks up less CS as Talon. Champions who on average don't get many minion kills usualy don't need much CS to be effective, such as supports. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically need several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values displayed on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to prioritize in your Elise versus Talon build include Night Harvester, Zhonya's Hourglass, and Shadowflame. When Elise included at least these three items in her build, she performed much better countering Talon than with many other typical builds. In fact, Elise had an average win rate of 44.1% when playing against Talon with these items in her kit.

To have the highest probability of coming out on top against Talon as Elise, you should use the Electrocute, Cheap Shot, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Waterwalking runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune builds we have analyed for Elise vs Talon counter picks, this mixture of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 44.1% winrate overall.

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