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How to Win Elise vs Talon Counter MatchupElise is in the a tier of champions

Elise vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Elise in LoLElise is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Elise

based on 662 Elise vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
47.7 %
K/D/A
2.24
Pick Rate
2.4 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of ranked League rounds every week. In our data, Elise battled Talon 662 times. Using so many games with Elise versus Talon gives us a lot of confidence in our capacity to prepare actionable data and a solid build to obliterate Talon. This counter pairing is somewhat rare. Elise has to counter Talon in only 2.4% of her games.

Elise vs Talon Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Elise has done a below average job of beating Talon. Typically, she wins a lowly 47.7% of the time the champs fight each other in. In Elise vs Talon rounds, Elise’s team is 0.1% more expected to gain first blood, implying that she probably will be able to get first blood against Talon.

Best Elise vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeSorcerer's Shoes

Core Elise Items

~22 Mins
Lich BaneShadowflameStormsurge

Optional Items

Hextech RocketbeltZhonya's Hourglass

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Elise to level upq
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Second ability for Elise to level upw
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Last skill for Elise to max oute

Runes

DominationDark HarvestCheap ShotEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
PrecisionTriumphCoup de Grace
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Elise's passive ability p
Elise's q ability q
Elise's w ability w
Elise's e ability e
Elise's ultimate ability r
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Guide to Countering Talon as Elise

Tips for Playing as Elise against Talon

Spider Form is most effective at finishing off enemies with low health; Human Form's Neurotoxin does more damage to healthy foes.

Elise's Spider Form and Spider Form abilities do not cost mana and can be prioritized when you are trying to conserve mana.

When in Spider Form, Spiderlings will attack the target that Elise uses Venomous Bite on.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Elise vs Talon Counter Stats

Elise Image
Win Rate
47.7 %
VS
Win Rate
52.3 %
Talon Image
7.5
< Kills >
8.5
6.8
< Deaths >
7
7.7
< Assists >
6.3
1.77
< Killing Sprees >
1.9
31
< Minions Killed >
136
1.35
< Dragons Killed >
0.51
0.42
< Inhibitors >
0.33
1,273
< Physical Damage >
21,244
16,412
< Magic Damage >
79
1,461
< True Damage >
1,200
19,147
< Damage Dealt >
22,523
30,209
< Damage Taken >
28,312
11,687
< Gold Earned >
12,876
1.41
< Towers >
1.47
0.31
< Baron Takedowns >
0.12
13,337
< Total Healing >
6,785
13,125
< Experience >
14,828
25
< Vision Score >
19
7
< Wards Placed >
6
174
< Time Dealing CC >
195

How to Counter Talon with Elise in LoL

The stats shown here show several vital Elise versus Talon counter statistics that can help us realize the differences and similarities between the pair. Elise’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Talon’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Elise may be more central to her team's team fighting effectiveness than Talon..

Elise normally has a similar longest killing spree as her counter does. Typically, she takes a similar amount of damage to Talon. This commonly reflects differing health capacities; however, it can also show that the champion with higher HP has less mobility and thus is unable to flee from additional damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Elise and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Elise
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Elise
Talon

Who is Better, Elise or Talon?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Elise usually loses when facing off against Talon, with a 47.7% win rate. Thus, Elise makes a bad counter for Talon.

While Elise does have a lower winrate compared to Talon, when on opposite teams, Elise also has a greater difficulty level that makes her a more complex champ to learn. You should be very concerned when picking Elise into Talonas her relative depth means you may not be able to unleash her full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Elise also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion in League of Legends, in Elise vs Talon matchups, Talon is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Elise is a trash counter to Talon. Make sure you focus your strategy on increasing your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Elise against Talon.

Other Champion Matchups Against Elise

Elise Loses Against

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Elise Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee61.1% winrateYuumiYuumi58.1% winrateKarthusKarthus54.6% winrateOlafOlaf54.4% winrate

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Additional Information for Elise Players

How We Calculated Our Elise vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Elise, we analyzed 662 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Elise comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

Elise Build Talon Build

Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Elise in order to counter Talon during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and stats displayed above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Elise often picks up a lot less CS relative to Talon. Champions who on average don't acquire many minion kills typically don't need much CS to be effective, such as supports. They are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually have to have many items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the values reported on this page to do well.

The most important items to use in your Elise versus Talon build consist of Lich Bane, Shadowflame, and Stormsurge. When Elise included at least these three items in her build, she performed much better vs. Talon than with most other typical counter builds. In fact, Elise had an average winrate of 47.7% when playing against Talon with this build.

To have the highest probability of annihilating Talon as Elise, Elise players should equip the Dark Harvest, Cheap Shot, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Coup de Grace, and Triumph runes from the Domination and Precision rune sets. Of all the runes players used for Elise vs Talon LoL games, this mix of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 47.7% winrate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Talon as Elise are shown for all skill levels combined. To scope the statistics and builds to a particular division, you can use the selection menu earlier in the counter matchup guide.