Graves vs Talon
How to Beat Talon as Graves
based on 4,122 Graves vs Talon matchupsHow We Analyze LoL Champion Counters
Graves vs Talon Matchup Summary
Best Graves vs Talon Counter Build
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Guide to Countering Talon as Graves
Tips for Playing as Graves against Talon
Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.
Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.
Advice to Win Against Talon
Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.
Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.
Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.
Graves vs Talon Counter Stats
How to Counter Talon with Graves in LoL
The stats shown here emphasize some influential Graves versus Talon matchup statistics that can help you figure out the differences and similarities between this pair of champs. Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Talon’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Talon..
Graves usually has a similar longest kill spree as his opponent does. Commonly, he takes a similar amount of damage to Talon. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also indicate that the one champ has less mobility and thus is unable to escape further damage when engaged or poked.
Differences between Graves and Talon
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Who is Better, Graves or Talon?
Both LoL champs are great. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Graves usually fairs equally well when facing off against Talon, with a 50.3% win rate. Thus, Graves makes an ok counter for Talon.
While Graves does have a higher winrate compared to Talon, when facing one another, Graves also has a much lower level of difficulty that makes him a less time consuming champion to develop with. You should be careful when picking Graves into Talon.
Moreover, Graves also has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.
While there isn't one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Graves vs Talon matchups, Graves is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.
Graves is a decent counter for Talon. Make sure you focus your tactics on increasing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Graves against Talon.
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Further Insights to Win this Matchup
To learn all of the intricacies of Graves to counter Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown above, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.
Graves most often picks up less CS as Talon. Champs who typically don't earn many minion kills often don't need much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers displayed on this page to do well.
The best items to focus on in your Graves versus Talon build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, The Collector, and Hubris. When Graves included at least these three pieces in his build, he performed significantly better vs Talon than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Graves had an average win rate of 50.3% battling Talon with these items in his kit.
To have the best probability of beating Talon as Graves, you should use the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Treasure Hunter, and Zombie Ward runes from the Precision and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune builds players picked for Graves vs Talon matchups, this mix of runes yielded the best win rate. Notably, these runes provided a 50.3% winrate overall.
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