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How to Win Karma vs Veigar Counter MatchupKarma is in the b tier of champions

Karma vs Veigar

How to Beat Veigar as Karma in LoLKarma is in the b tier of champions
MageSupport
Mage

How to Beat Veigar as Karma

based on 3,278 Karma vs Veigar matchups
Win Rate
49.2 %
K/D/A
2.71
Pick Rate
3.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter stats from the millions of rated LoL rounds that we review each week. Our guide on how to beat Veigar as Karma came out of an examination of 3278 ranked matches where both champions engaged one another. This champ pairing is relatively rare. Karma encounters Veigar in only 3.2% of her rounds.

Karma vs Veigar Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Karma has done a poor job of countering Veigar. Typically, she wins a acceptable 49.2% of matches the champs oppose one another in. In Karma versus Veigar matches, Karma’s team is 0.2% more likely to get first blood. This implies that she most likely will get first blood against Veigar.

Best Karma vs Veigar Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeIonian Boots of Lucidity

Core Karma Items

~22 Mins
Shurelya's BattlesongRedemptionZaz'Zak's Realmspike

Optional Items

Solstice SleighLuden's CompanionCosmic DriveLiandry's Torment

Summoner Spells

summonerexhaust summoner spell D
summonerflash summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Karma to level upq
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Second ability for Karma to level upe
>
Last skill for Karma to max outw

Runes

SorcerySummon AeryManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
ResolveBone PlatingRevitalize
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Karma's passive ability p
Karma's q ability q
Karma's w ability w
Karma's e ability e
Karma's ultimate ability r
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Q
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E
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W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Guide to Countering Veigar as Karma

Tips for Playing as Karma against Veigar

Don't be too conservative with Mantra. Gathering Fire is strongest in teamfights, making it easy to recharge Mantra multiple times.

Gathering Fire rewards aggressive play. Look to land abilities and basic attacks on your opponent to lower Mantra's cooldown and stay on the offensive.

When using Focused Resolve, slow your opponents with Inner Flame or speed yourself up with Inspire if you're having trouble sticking to a target.

Advice to Win Against Veigar

Dark Matter deals very high damage, but it can be avoided. Pay attention to the sound and visual indicator to be aware of when and where the spell will land.

Veigar's ultimate deals increased damage based on your missing health.

Event Horizon only stuns units on the edge. If you're inside the spell, you can still move and attack.

Karma vs Veigar Counter Stats

Karma Image
Win Rate
49.2 %
VS
Win Rate
50.8 %
Veigar Image
3.1
< Kills >
6.9
5.5
< Deaths >
6
11.8
< Assists >
6.2
0.66
< Killing Sprees >
1.58
68
< Minions Killed >
171
0.05
< Dragons Killed >
0.12
0.52
< Inhibitors >
0.51
935
< Physical Damage >
657
14,454
< Magic Damage >
21,793
752
< True Damage >
565
16,142
< Damage Dealt >
23,016
19,546
< Damage Taken >
19,486
9,465
< Gold Earned >
12,176
2.01
< Towers >
2.05
0.02
< Baron Takedowns >
0.04
2,852
< Total Healing >
2,096
11,825
< Experience >
14,534
50
< Vision Score >
21
21
< Wards Placed >
11
241
< Time Dealing CC >
89

How to Counter Veigar with Karma in LoL

The stats shown here highlight several strategic Karma versus Veigar counter statistics that can help you figure out the distinctions between the two. Karma’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Veigar’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Karma may be more central to her team's team fighting potential than Veigar. This observation is in large part a result of the differences in assists.

Karma usually has a significantly smaller longest killing spree than her matchup does. On average, she receives a similar amount of damage to Veigar. This typically indicates differing health capacities; however, it can also imply that the one champ has less agility and thus is not able to escape additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Karma and Veigar

Damage Types Compared

Karma
Veigar
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Karma
Veigar

Who is Better, Karma or Veigar?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Karma usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Veigar, with a 49.2% win rate. Therefore, Karma makes an ok counter to Veigar.

While Karma does have a lower win rate than Veigar, when on opposite teams, Karma also has a lower learning curve that makes her a less challenging champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Karma into Veigar.

Additionally, Karma has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Veigar. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Karma vs Veigar matchups, Veigar is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Karma is a somewhat poor counter for Veigar. Make sure you focus your actions on increasing your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Karma against Veigar.

Additional Information for Karma Players

How We Calculated Our Karma vs Veigar Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Veigar as Karma, we analyzed 3,278 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Veigar as Karma comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Karma in order to counter Veigar during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and tips presented above, you will increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Karma most often picks up less CS as Veigar. Champions who on average don't take many minion kills typically don't need much CS to be effective, such as supports. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically have to have several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers reported here to do well.

The most important items to use in your Karma versus Veigar build consist of Shurelya's Battlesong, Redemption, and Zaz'Zak's Realmspike. When Karma included at least these three pieces in her build, she did much better against Veigar than with most other common counter builds. In fact, Karma boasted an average win rate of 49.2% when countering Veigar with this counter build.

To have the best probability of annihilating Veigar as Karma, Karma players should take the Summon Aery, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Bone Plating, and Revitalize runes from the Sorcery and Resolve rune sets. Of all the rune combinations we have analyed for Karma vs Veigar fights, this order of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 49.2% win rate overall.

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