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How to Win Orianna vs Talon Counter MatchupOrianna is in the b tier of champions

Orianna vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Orianna in LoLOrianna is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Orianna

based on 1,077 Orianna vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
48 %
K/D/A
2.58
Pick Rate
2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our matchup statistics from the millions of recently ranked League rounds that we analyze each and every week. This guide on how to beat Talon as Orianna came out of an evaluation of 1077 ranked rounds where both champs opposed one another. This particular counter pairing is fairly rare. Orianna fights Talon in only 2.0% of her matches.

Orianna vs Talon Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Orianna has done a below average job of beating Talon. Typically, she wins a lowly 48.0% of games the champs oppose one another in. In Orianna against Talon games, Orianna’s side is 0.1% less likely to get first blood, indicating that she most likely won't be able to get first blood versus Talon.

Best Orianna vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's RingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeTear of the Goddess

Core Orianna Items

~22 Mins
Zhonya's HourglassShadowflameStormsurge

Optional Items

Rabadon's DeathcapSeraph's EmbraceLuden's Companion

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerteleport summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Orianna to level upq
>
Second ability for Orianna to level upw
>
Last skill for Orianna to max oute

Runes

SorcerySummon AeryManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
InspirationBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Orianna's passive ability p
Orianna's q ability q
Orianna's w ability w
Orianna's e ability e
Orianna's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
W
3
E
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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W
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W
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Guide to Countering Talon as Orianna

Tips for Playing as Orianna against Talon

Command: Protect can be used on yourself to return the Ball back to you quickly. Combine this with Command: Attack for a quick harassment.

Command: Dissonance is a very powerful escape tool if Orianna has the Ball. The combination of speed and leaving a slowing obstacle can be quite powerful.

Command: Shockwave can be used to drag enemies towards you or away from you if you position the Ball properly.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Orianna vs Talon Counter Stats

Orianna Image
Win Rate
48 %
VS
Win Rate
52 %
Talon Image
5.6
< Kills >
8.5
5.7
< Deaths >
6.6
9.1
< Assists >
5.9
1.3
< Killing Sprees >
1.89
175
< Minions Killed >
135
0.08
< Dragons Killed >
0.45
0.52
< Inhibitors >
0.33
1,075
< Physical Damage >
20,814
20,040
< Magic Damage >
74
305
< True Damage >
1,157
21,421
< Damage Dealt >
22,045
19,102
< Damage Taken >
27,786
11,537
< Gold Earned >
12,666
2.14
< Towers >
1.41
0.03
< Baron Takedowns >
0.12
1,864
< Total Healing >
6,477
14,662
< Experience >
14,765
21
< Vision Score >
19
10
< Wards Placed >
6
340
< Time Dealing CC >
191

How to Counter Talon with Orianna in LoL

The stats shown on this page underscore some important Orianna vs. Talon matchup statistics that may help you appreciate the distinctions between the two. As an example, Orianna’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Talon’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Orianna may be more central to her team's team fighting potential than Talon..

Orianna typically has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than her foe does. On average, she takes less damage than Talon. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also imply that the one champion has less agility and thus is not able to escape additional damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Orianna and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Orianna
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Orianna
Talon

Who is Better, Orianna or Talon?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Orianna usually loses when facing off against Talon, with a 48.0% win rate. Thus, Orianna makes a poor counter to Talon.

While Orianna does have a lower win rate than Talon, when they face off with one another, Orianna also has a greater level of difficulty that makes her a more difficult champion to pick up and master. You may get destroyed when picking Orianna into Talonas her relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash her full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Orianna has some amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Orianna vs Talon matchups, Talon is the better champ with a lower win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during teamfights.

Orianna is a trash counter for Talon. Make sure you focus your actions on keeping up your gold income and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Orianna against Talon.

Additional Information for Orianna Players

How We Calculated Our Orianna vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Orianna, we analyzed 1,077 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Orianna comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Orianna in order to counter Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions shown above, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Orianna often accumulates a similar amount of CS relative to Talon. Champions who typically don't get many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values shown on this page to do well.

The top items to focus on in your Orianna versus Talon build consist of Zhonya's Hourglass, Shadowflame, and Stormsurge. When Orianna incorporated at least these three items in her build, she performed a lot better when fighting Talon than with most other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Orianna had an average winrate of 48.0% when countering Talon with this build.

To have the best chance of crushing Talon as Orianna, Orianna players should take the Summon Aery, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Biscuit Delivery, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Sorcery and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune sets we have analyed for Orianna vs Talon face-offs, this set of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 48.0% winrate overall.

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