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How to Win Veigar vs Talon Counter MatchupVeigar is in the b tier of champions

Veigar vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Veigar in LoLVeigar is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Veigar

based on 2,520 Veigar vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
50.2 %
K/D/A
2.09
Pick Rate
1.9 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We generate our matchup statistics from the millions of rated LoL matches that we get from Riot Games each week. This guide on how to beat Talon as Veigar resulted from an examination of 2520 ranked matches where both champs engaged each other. This counter pairing is somewhat rare. Veigar has to counter Talon in only 1.9% of his rounds.

Veigar vs Talon Matchup Summary

Veigar has done a ok job of beating Talon. On average, he wins a acceptable 50.2% of games the champs battle each other in. In Veigar versus Talon games, Veigar’s team is 0.1% less probable to earn first blood. This indicates that he probably won't be able to get first blood against Talon.

Best Veigar vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's RingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Sapphire CrystalGlowing Mote

Core Veigar Items

~22 Mins
ShadowflameStormsurgeLuden's Companion

Optional Items

Rabadon's DeathcapVoid StaffSeraph's EmbraceZhonya's Hourglass

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Veigar to level upq
>
Second ability for Veigar to level upw
>
Last skill for Veigar to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
SorceryManaflow BandTranscendence
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Veigar's passive ability p
Veigar's q ability q
Veigar's w ability w
Veigar's e ability e
Veigar's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Talon as Veigar

Tips for Playing as Veigar against Talon

Veigar is extremely Mana and Cooldown Reduction dependent. Try buying items with these stats in order to increase the effectiveness of your passive and Baleful Strike.

Veigar is very fragile. It is valuable to select at least one summoner spell that can be used defensively.

Use Event Horizon to increase your chances of landing Dark Matter.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Veigar vs Talon Counter Stats

Veigar Image
Win Rate
50.2 %
VS
Win Rate
49.8 %
Talon Image
7.2
< Kills >
9.2
6.5
< Deaths >
6.8
6.4
< Assists >
5.9
1.66
< Killing Sprees >
2.09
170
< Minions Killed >
139
0.13
< Dragons Killed >
0.42
0.51
< Inhibitors >
0.34
712
< Physical Damage >
21,714
22,273
< Magic Damage >
73
591
< True Damage >
1,219
23,576
< Damage Dealt >
23,007
19,490
< Damage Taken >
28,322
12,356
< Gold Earned >
12,962
2.02
< Towers >
1.41
0.04
< Baron Takedowns >
0.09
1,863
< Total Healing >
6,337
14,675
< Experience >
15,000
22
< Vision Score >
19
11
< Wards Placed >
7
91
< Time Dealing CC >
187

How to Counter Talon with Veigar in LoL

The stats shown here show some important Veigar against Talon matchup statistics that may help us appreciate the differences and similarities between the pair. As an example, Veigar’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Talon’s KDA ratio of NaN, showing that Veigar may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Talon..

Veigar typically has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than his opponent does. Typically, he receives less damage than Talon. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also indicate that the champion with higher HP has less agility and thus is not able to flee from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Veigar and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Veigar
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Veigar
Talon

Who is Better, Veigar or Talon?

Both League champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Veigar usually fairs equally well when taking on Talon, with a 50.2% win rate. Thus, Veigar makes an ok counter for Talon.

While Veigar does have a higher winrate than Talon, when on opposite teams, Veigar also has a greater difficulty level that makes him a more complex champ to develop with. You should be careful when picking Veigar into Talonas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Veigar has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Veigar vs Talon matchups, Veigar is the better champ with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Veigar is a decent counter for Talon. Focus your gameplay on increasing your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Veigar against Talon.

Additional Information for Veigar Players

How We Calculated Our Veigar vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Veigar, we analyzed 2,520 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Veigar comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Veigar to counter Talon during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and tips presented above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Veigar often accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Talon. Champions who on average don't earn many minion kills typically don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers displayed on this page to do well.

The ideal items to focus on in your Veigar versus Talon build include Shadowflame, Stormsurge, and Luden's Companion. When Veigar bought at least these three items in his build, he performed significantly better countering Talon than with many other typical item sets. In fact, Veigar had an average win rate of 50.2% when countering Talon with this build.

To have the greatest probability of vanquishing Talon as Veigar, Veigar players should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, Manaflow Band, and Transcendence runes from the Inspiration and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the runes we have analyed for Veigar vs Talon clashes, this mix of runes yielded the highest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 50.2% win rate overall.

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