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How to Win Talon vs Veigar Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Veigar

How to Beat Veigar as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Veigar as Talon

based on 2,520 Talon vs Veigar matchups
Win Rate
49.8 %
K/D/A
2.22
Pick Rate
3.1 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of ranked LoL matches each and every week. In our database, Talon engaged Veigar in 2520 matches. Using so many games with Talon versus Veigar gives us a lot of confidence in our capability to prepare informative stats and a supported build to smash Veigar. This counter matchup is relatively rare. Talon fights Veigar in only 3.1% of his rounds.

Talon vs Veigar Matchup Summary

Talon has done a average job of countering Veigar. On average, he wins a acceptable 49.8% of the time the champs face each other in. In Talon against Veigar games, Talon’s side is 0.1% more expected to earn first blood, implying that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Veigar.

Best Talon vs Veigar Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordCaulfield's Warhammer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Axiom ArcHubrisYoumuu's GhostbladeOpportunity

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationEyeball CollectionTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
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W
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Guide to Countering Veigar as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Veigar

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Veigar

Dark Matter deals very high damage, but it can be avoided. Pay attention to the sound and visual indicator to be aware of when and where the spell will land.

Veigar's ultimate deals increased damage based on your missing health.

Event Horizon only stuns units on the edge. If you're inside the spell, you can still move and attack.

Talon vs Veigar Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.8 %
VS
Win Rate
50.2 %
Veigar Image
9.2
< Kills >
7.2
6.8
< Deaths >
6.5
5.9
< Assists >
6.4
2.09
< Killing Sprees >
1.66
139
< Minions Killed >
170
0.42
< Dragons Killed >
0.13
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.51
21,714
< Physical Damage >
712
73
< Magic Damage >
22,273
1,219
< True Damage >
591
23,007
< Damage Dealt >
23,576
28,322
< Damage Taken >
19,490
12,962
< Gold Earned >
12,356
1.41
< Towers >
2.02
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.04
6,337
< Total Healing >
1,863
15,000
< Experience >
14,675
19
< Vision Score >
22
7
< Wards Placed >
11
187
< Time Dealing CC >
91

How to Counter Veigar with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here show several influential Talon against Veigar counter stats that may help you grasp the differences between the pair. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Veigar’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Veigar..

Talon typically has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his matchup does. Commonly, he receives more damage than Veigar. This commonly reflects differing health capacities, but it can also illustrate that the champion with more health has less mobility and thus is not able to escape further harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Veigar

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Veigar
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Veigar

Who is Better, Talon or Veigar?

Both LoL champs are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when taking on Veigar, with a 49.8% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter to Veigar.

While Talon does have a lower win rate compared to Veigar, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more difficult champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Veigaras his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Veigar. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Talon vs Veigar matchups, Veigar is the better champion with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter to Veigar. Make sure you focus your play on increasing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Veigar.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Veigar Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Veigar as Talon, we analyzed 2,520 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Veigar as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Veigar during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and tips presented here, you should grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon usually picks up a similar amount of CS compared to Veigar. Champs who on average don't take many minion kills often don't need much CS to be effective, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often have to have a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the values displayed here to do well.

The best items to have in your Talon versus Veigar build include Edge of Night, Serylda's Grudge, and Profane Hydra. When Talon bought at least these three pieces in his build, he did significantly better vs. Veigar than with many other common builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 49.8% battling Veigar with this build.

To have the highest chance of coming out on top against Veigar as Talon, you should equip the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Eyeball Collection, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players picked for Talon vs Veigar clashes, this order of runes resulted in the best win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 49.8% win rate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Veigar as Talon are shown for every ranked division. If you want to narrow the stats and builds to a particular player tier, you can use the selection menu located earlier in the counter matchup guide.