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Talon vs Bard

How to Beat Bard as Talon in LoLTalon is in the s tier of champions
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How to Beat Bard as Talon

based on 2,578 Talon vs Bard matchups
Win Rate
45.5 %
K/D/A
2.01
Pick Rate
3.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our counter stats from the millions of recently rated LoL rounds that we evaluate each and every week. Our guide on how to beat Bard as Talon resulted from an examination of 2578 ranked games where both champs clashed against one another. This champion pairing is relatively rare. Talon fights Bard in only 3.2% of his rounds.

Talon vs Bard Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a awful job of countering Bard. On average, he wins a lowly 45.5% of games the champs clash against each other in. In Talon against Bard games, Talon’s side is 0.0% more expected to earn first blood. This implies that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Bard.

Best Talon vs Bard Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeHubrisEclipse

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationEyeball CollectionTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
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W
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Q
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Q
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E
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Guide to Countering Bard as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Bard

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Bard

You can crush Bard's healing shrines just by walking over them. Don't let his allies take them without a fight.

Bard's ultimate, Tempered Fate, affects allies, enemies, monsters, and turrets alike. Sometimes it can be to your advantage to jump into it!

Bard's opponents can also travel through his Magical Journey doorways. You can follow him, if you think it's safe.

Talon vs Bard Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
45.5 %
VS
Win Rate
54.5 %
Bard Image
8.3
< Kills >
2.9
7.1
< Deaths >
5.2
6
< Assists >
14.8
1.89
< Killing Sprees >
0.61
138
< Minions Killed >
30
0.49
< Dragons Killed >
0.05
0.31
< Inhibitors >
0.54
22,225
< Physical Damage >
3,210
85
< Magic Damage >
8,410
1,285
< True Damage >
1,111
23,596
< Damage Dealt >
12,731
28,689
< Damage Taken >
22,499
12,800
< Gold Earned >
9,283
1.33
< Towers >
1.84
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
6,789
< Total Healing >
7,094
14,804
< Experience >
11,835
18
< Vision Score >
65
6
< Wards Placed >
29
196
< Time Dealing CC >
512

How to Counter Bard with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here highlight several influential Talon vs. Bard matchup statistics that can help us figure out the differences and similarities between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Bard’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Bard. This observation is largely caused by the difference in kills.

Talon typically has a much larger longest kill spree than his enemy does. Typically, he takes more damage than Bard. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also imply that the one champion has less agility and thus is not able to escape further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Bard

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Bard
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Bard

Who is Better, Talon or Bard?

Both League champions are great champions. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Talon usually loses when playing against Bard, with a 45.5% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a poor counter for Bard.

While Talon does have a much lower winrate compared to Bard, when facing one another, Talon also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less difficult character to pick up and master. You should expect to face a difficult match when picking Talon into Bardas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Bard. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Bard matchups, Bard is the better champion with a much lower win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during late stage team fights.

Talon is a terribly counter to Bard. Make sure you focus your play on increasing your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Talon against Bard.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Bard Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Bard as Talon, we analyzed 2,578 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Bard as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Bard during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and stats presented here, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically picks up much more CS relative to Bard. Champs who typically don't earn many minion kills typically don't require much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically need several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the values displayed on this page to do well.

The top items to have in your Talon versus Bard build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon included at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better vs Bard than with many other typical builds. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 45.5% battling Bard with this build.

To have the best likelihood of coming out on top against Bard as Talon, you should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Eyeball Collection, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune sets players chose for Talon vs Bard counterpicks, this blending of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes provided a 45.5% winrate overall.

If you would like to get Talon x Bard tips and counter builds for a a particular player tier, feel free to choose one from the selection menu above. By default, the statistics and guides given are calculated using every round completed with both champions.