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How to Win Talon vs Nidalee Counter MatchupTalon is in the s tier of champions

Talon vs Nidalee

How to Beat Nidalee as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Nidalee as Talon

based on 589 Talon vs Nidalee matchups
Win Rate
51.8 %
K/D/A
2.12
Pick Rate
1.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion evaluate millions of ranked League games each and every week. In our database, Talon engaged Nidalee in 589 games. With so many games with Talon versus Nidalee provides us a lot of confidence in our capability to provide useful statistics and a recommended build to suppress Nidalee. This particular champion matchup is relatively rare. Talon has to counter Nidalee in only 1.3% of his rounds.

Talon vs Nidalee Matchup Summary

Talon has done a decent job of beating Nidalee. Typically, he wins a acceptable 51.8% of matches the champions oppose each other in. In Talon against Nidalee games, Talon’s team is 0.1% less likely to obtain first blood, indicating that he probably won't be able to get first blood versus Nidalee.

Best Talon vs Nidalee Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordCaulfield's Warhammer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Duskblade of DraktharrBlack CleaverSerylda's Grudge

Optional Items

Edge of NightProwler's ClawAxiom Arc

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Guide to Countering Nidalee as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Nidalee

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Nidalee

Nidalee's Javelin Toss deals more damage the farther she is. If she is far away, it's imperative to dodge it.

Nidalee's Takedown deals extreme damage to Hunted targets, but she has to get close to use it. Save your crowd control or defensive abilities for when she goes in for the kill.

Nidalee's Hunt debuff is only applied with Javelin Toss and Bushwhack. Avoiding being hit by these abilities will impair her ability to deal follow-up damage.

Talon vs Nidalee Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
51.8 %
VS
Win Rate
48.2 %
Nidalee Image
8.6
< Kills >
7.3
6.6
< Deaths >
6
5.4
< Assists >
7.4
1.88
< Killing Sprees >
1.66
139
< Minions Killed >
34
0.32
< Dragons Killed >
1.12
0.32
< Inhibitors >
0.43
20,665
< Physical Damage >
1,146
101
< Magic Damage >
16,379
1,136
< True Damage >
985
21,903
< Damage Dealt >
18,510
25,398
< Damage Taken >
31,366
12,227
< Gold Earned >
11,503
1.33
< Towers >
1.42
0.05
< Baron Takedowns >
0.31
5,113
< Total Healing >
15,662
13,988
< Experience >
12,854
17
< Vision Score >
24
6
< Wards Placed >
6
205
< Time Dealing CC >
158

How to Counter Nidalee with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here emphasize several valuable Talon against Nidalee matchup stats that can help you grasp the differences and similarities between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Nidalee’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Nidalee..

Talon typically has a similar longest killing spree as his enemy does. On average, he receives less damage than Nidalee. This often reflects differing health capacities, yet it can also indicate that the one champ has less agility and thus is unable to flee from further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Nidalee

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Nidalee
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Nidalee

Who is Better, Talon or Nidalee?

Both LoL champs are great. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Talon usually wins when trying to fight Nidalee, with a 51.8% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a good counter to Nidalee.

While Talon does have a higher winrate compared to Nidalee, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a lower learning curve that makes him a less time consuming champion to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Nidaleeas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Nidalee. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Nidalee matchups, Talon is the better champion with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Talon is a decent counter to Nidalee. You will do well by focussing your play on increasing your CS and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Nidalee.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Nidalee Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Nidalee as Talon, we analyzed 589 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Nidalee as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Nidalee during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions presented above, you should increase your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average gets much more CS relative to Nidalee. Champs who typically don't get many minion kills typically don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often have to have several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers shown here to do well.

The ideal items to focus on in your Talon versus Nidalee build consist of Duskblade of Draktharr, Black Cleaver, and Serylda's Grudge. When Talon incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he did much better when facing Nidalee than with most other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average win rate of 51.8% when playing against Nidalee with this counter build.

To have the greatest likelihood of vanquishing Nidalee as Talon, Talon players should equip the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune combinations players picked for Talon vs Nidalee matchups, this combo of runes resulted in the best win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 51.8% win rate overall.

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