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How to Win Talon vs Malphite Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Malphite

How to Beat Malphite as Talon in LoLTalon is in the a tier of champions
Assassin
TankFighter

How to Beat Malphite as Talon

based on 3,531 Talon vs Malphite matchups
Win Rate
46.7 %
K/D/A
2.01
Pick Rate
4.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we analyze millions of ranked League games each and every week. Within our data, Talon faced off against Malphite in 3531 rounds. With so many games with Talon versus Malphite gives us faith in our capacity to provide informative data and a solid build to wreck your opponent. This particular pairing is somewhat uncommon. Talon is forced to battle against Malphite in only 4.3% of his games.

Talon vs Malphite Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a pathetic job of beating Malphite. Normally, he wins a lowly 46.7% of the time the champions battle each other in. In Talon vs Malphite matches, Talon’s team is 0.1% more expected to get first blood, implying that he probably will be able to get first blood against Malphite.

Best Talon vs Malphite Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordPickaxe

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeProfane HydraVoltaic Cyclosword

Optional Items

Edge of NightSundered SkyBlack CleaverAxiom Arc

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
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R
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W
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Q
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Q
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Malphite as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Malphite

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Malphite

If you're a physical damage character stay behind your allies when fighting Malphite. Ground Slam can significantly reduce your damage output.

Malphite is one of a couple tanks who are capable of jungling. Watch out if he gets Smite.

Talon vs Malphite Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
46.7 %
VS
Win Rate
53.3 %
Malphite Image
8.3
< Kills >
5.3
7.2
< Deaths >
5
6.2
< Assists >
8.2
1.9
< Killing Sprees >
1.23
138
< Minions Killed >
151
0.4
< Dragons Killed >
0.1
0.32
< Inhibitors >
0.49
20,695
< Physical Damage >
5,352
79
< Magic Damage >
15,178
1,191
< True Damage >
674
21,965
< Damage Dealt >
21,204
28,288
< Damage Taken >
24,710
12,640
< Gold Earned >
11,079
1.39
< Towers >
2
0.08
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
6,313
< Total Healing >
3,290
14,511
< Experience >
14,605
18
< Vision Score >
21
6
< Wards Placed >
10
193
< Time Dealing CC >
709

How to Counter Malphite with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here show some valuable Talon versus Malphite matchup statistics that may help you appreciate the differences between the pair. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Malphite’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Malphite. This observation is in large part a result of the differences in killsdeaths.

Talon usually has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his enemy does. On average, he takes more damage than Malphite. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also imply that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to kite away from further harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Malphite

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Malphite
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Malphite

Who is Better, Talon or Malphite?

Both League of Legends champs are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when playing against Malphite, with a 46.7% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a bad counter to Malphite.

While Talon does have a lower winrate than Malphite, when facing one another, Talon also has a much greater learning curve that makes him a more difficult character to learn. You should be very concerned when picking Talon into Malphiteas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Talon has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Malphite. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Malphite matchups, Malphite is the better champion with a much lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Talon is a bad counter for Malphite. You will do well by focussing your tactics on keeping up your gold income and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Malphite.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Malphite Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Malphite as Talon, we analyzed 3,531 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Malphite as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Malphite during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions presented above, you should increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon often accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Malphite. Champs who typically don't get much CS often don't require much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require many items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The most important items to focus on in your Talon versus Malphite build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Profane Hydra, and Voltaic Cyclosword. When Talon incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he performed significantly better when fighting Malphite than with most other common builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 46.7% when countering Malphite with this counter build.

To have the best probability of beating Malphite as Talon, you should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune sets players picked for Talon vs Malphite LoL games, this mixture of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 46.7% winrate overall.

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