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How to Win Talon vs Shyvana Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Shyvana

How to Beat Shyvana as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Shyvana as Talon

based on 1,013 Talon vs Shyvana matchups
Win Rate
50.8 %
K/D/A
2.3
Pick Rate
1.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we analyze millions of recently ranked League rounds every week. Within our dataset, Talon did battle with Shyvana 1013 times. With so many matchups for Talon vs Shyvana gives us faith in our capability to produce informative stats and a solid build to defeat your rival. This particular counter matchup is relatively rare. Talon fights Shyvana in only 1.2% of his matches.

Talon vs Shyvana Matchup Summary

Talon does a average job of countering Shyvana. On average, he wins a acceptable 50.8% of games the champs oppose each other in. In Talon against Shyvana rounds, Talon’s team is 0.1% more likely to get first blood. This indicates that he probably will be able to get first blood against Shyvana.

Best Talon vs Shyvana Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordGlowing Mote

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Voltaic CycloswordEdge of NightHubrisSerylda's Grudge

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
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Second ability for Talon to level upq
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Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

PrecisionConquerorTriumphLegend: TenacityLast Stand
InspirationMagical FootwearMinion Dematerializer
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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Guide to Countering Shyvana as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Shyvana

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Shyvana

All of Shyvana's basic abilities hit multiple enemies in dragon form. It's important for opposing champions to not cluster while fighting her.

Shyvana's Fury Bar indicate her ultimate can be activated. Harassing her when she's low on Fury can be very effective.

A significant portion of Shyvana's power is generated through aggression, making her weak against opponents who are able to keep their distance.

Talon vs Shyvana Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
50.8 %
VS
Win Rate
49.2 %
Shyvana Image
8.7
< Kills >
6.1
6.4
< Deaths >
6.2
6
< Assists >
6.3
2.02
< Killing Sprees >
1.43
137
< Minions Killed >
67
0.44
< Dragons Killed >
1.56
0.35
< Inhibitors >
0.49
21,478
< Physical Damage >
5,080
86
< Magic Damage >
13,982
1,162
< True Damage >
1,016
22,726
< Damage Dealt >
20,078
27,058
< Damage Taken >
33,746
12,605
< Gold Earned >
12,305
1.41
< Towers >
1.71
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.3
6,283
< Total Healing >
12,200
14,628
< Experience >
14,343
18
< Vision Score >
22
7
< Wards Placed >
7
186
< Time Dealing CC >
209

How to Counter Shyvana with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page underscore some influential Talon vs. Shyvana counter stats that can help us distinguish the distinctions between the pair. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Shyvana’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Shyvana..

Talon often has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his matchup does. On average, he receives less damage than Shyvana. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also show that the one champ has less mobility and thus is unable to flee from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Shyvana

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Shyvana
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Shyvana

Who is Better, Talon or Shyvana?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Shyvana, with a 50.8% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter for Shyvana.

While Talon does have a higher winrate compared to Shyvana, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a much greater difficulty level that makes him a more difficult champ to learn. You should be careful when picking Talon into Shyvanaas his relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Shyvana. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Shyvana matchups, Talon is the better champion with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during team fights.

Talon is a decent counter for Shyvana. Make sure you focus your actions on increasing your CS and taking out objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Shyvana.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Shyvana Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Shyvana as Talon, we analyzed 1,013 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Shyvana as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Shyvana during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and stats displayed above, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average gets more CS compared to Shyvana. Champions who typically don't acquire much CS usualy don't need much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the numbers shown here to do well.

The ideal items to have in your Talon versus Shyvana build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon used at least these three items in his build, he performed much better when fighting Shyvana than with many other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 50.8% when countering Shyvana with this build.

To have the greatest chance of annihilating Shyvana as Talon, Talon players should take the Conqueror, Triumph, Legend: Tenacity, Last Stand, Magical Footwear, and Minion Dematerializer runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the runes players picked for Talon vs Shyvana counters, this mixture of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 50.8% win rate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Shyvana as Talon are presented for all ranked divisions combined. If you would like to filter the stats and builds to a distinct division, you may use the selection menu at the top of this page.