How to Win Talon vs Shyvana Counter Matchup Talon is in the s tier of champions

Talon vs Shyvana

How to Beat Shyvana as Talon in LoL Shyvana is in the b tier of champions
Assassin
Fighter Tank

How to Beat Shyvana as Talon

based on 1,011 Talon vs Shyvana matchups
Win Rate
51.2 %
K/D/A
2.35
Pick Rate
1.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we analyze millions of ranked League of Legends rounds each week. In our database, Talon fought Shyvana 1011 times. Having so many matchups for Talon versus Shyvana provides us faith in our capacity to produce informative stats and a recommended build to suppress your enemy. This particular counter matchup is relatively rare. Talon encounters Shyvana in only 1.2% of his games.

Talon vs Shyvana Matchup Summary

Talon does a decent job of beating Shyvana. On average, he wins a acceptable 51.2% of the time the champs fight one another in. In Talon vs Shyvana games, Talon’s team is 0.1% more likely to earn first blood, indicating that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Shyvana.

Best Talon vs Shyvana Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordCaulfield's Warhammer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
EclipseYoumuu's GhostbladeSerylda's Grudge

Optional Items

Maw of MalmortiusEdge of NightBlack CleaverRavenous Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level up w
>
Second ability for Talon to level up q
>
Last skill for Talon to max out e

Runes

Domination Electrocute Sudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
Sorcery Nimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive Force Adaptive Force Magic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon q ability q
Talon w ability w
Talon e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
1
W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
7
W
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Q
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W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Q
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E
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Shyvana as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Shyvana

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Shyvana

Shyvana's Fury Bar indicate her ultimate can be activated. Harassing her when she's low on Fury can be very effective.

A significant portion of Shyvana's power is generated through aggression, making her weak against opponents who are able to keep their distance.

All of Shyvana's basic abilities hit multiple enemies in dragon form. It's important for opposing champions to not cluster while fighting her.

Talon vs Shyvana Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
51.2 %
VS
Win Rate
48.8 %
Shyvana Image
8.5
< Kills >
6.1
6.2
< Deaths >
5.7
6.1
< Assists >
6.8
1.92
< Killing Sprees >
1.35
137
< Minions Killed >
71
0.33
< Dragons Killed >
1.55
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.48
20,281
< Physical Damage >
3,846
81
< Magic Damage >
15,804
1,299
< True Damage >
1,328
21,662
< Damage Dealt >
20,979
25,771
< Damage Taken >
32,879
12,243
< Gold Earned >
12,157
1.42
< Towers >
1.82
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.36
4,030
< Total Healing >
6,443
14,297
< Experience >
14,339
19
< Vision Score >
23
3
< Wards Placed >
3
208
< Time Dealing CC >
480

How to Counter Shyvana with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here show some important Talon against Shyvana matchup stats that can help you understand the distinctions between the two. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Shyvana’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Shyvana..

Talon often has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his opponent does. Typically, he takes less damage than Shyvana. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also illustrate that the one champ has less agility and thus is not able to flee from further damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Shyvana

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Shyvana
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Shyvana

Who is Better, Talon or Shyvana?

Both League champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually wins when facing off against Shyvana, with a 51.2% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a good counter to Shyvana.

While Talon does have a higher win rate than Shyvana, when facing one another, Talon also has a much greater learning curve that makes him a more challenging champion to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Shyvanaas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Shyvana. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Shyvana matchups, Talon is the better champion with a higher win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Talon is a decent counter for Shyvana. You will do well by focussing your tactics on keeping up your CS and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Shyvana.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Shyvana Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Shyvana as Talon, we analyzed 1,011 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Shyvana as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Talon in order to counter Shyvana during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and tips presented here, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon most often picks up more CS relative to Shyvana. Champions who on average don't acquire much CS often don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as supports. They are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the numbers displayed here to do well.

The most important items to have in your Talon versus Shyvana build consist of Eclipse, Youmuu's Ghostblade, and Serylda's Grudge. When Talon bought at least these three items in his build, he performed significantly better vs. Shyvana than with most other common builds. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 51.2% when countering Shyvana with this build.

To have the best likelihood of annihilating Shyvana as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune combinations that we analyzed for Talon vs Shyvana fights, this set of runes resulted in the best win rate. In fact, these runes gave a 51.2% win rate overall.

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