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Talon vs Vel'Koz

How to Beat Vel'Koz as Talon in LoLTalon is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Vel'Koz as Talon

based on 1,651 Talon vs Vel'Koz matchups
Win Rate
49.1 %
K/D/A
2.07
Pick Rate
2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our counter statistics from the millions of recently rated LoL games that we get from Riot Games each week. This guide on how to beat Vel'Koz as Talon came out of an analysis of 1651 ranked matches where both champions clashed against one another. This particular champ pairing is fairly rare. Talon is forced to battle against Vel'Koz in only 2.0% of his games.

Talon vs Vel'Koz Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a below average job of countering Vel'Koz. On average, he wins a acceptable 49.1% of games the champs face each other in. In Talon vs Vel'Koz games, Talon’s team is 0.0% more expected to get first blood. This indicates that he most likely will get first blood versus Vel'Koz.

Best Talon vs Vel'Koz Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeOpportunity

Optional Items

Axiom ArcHubrisProfane HydraYoumuu's Ghostblade

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

PrecisionConquerorTriumphLegend: TenacityLast Stand
InspirationMagical FootwearMinion Dematerializer
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceArmor
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
6
R
7
W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Vel'Koz as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Vel'Koz

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Vel'Koz

Vel'Koz has fairly low mobility and is vulnerable to ganks.

Vel'Koz is very dangerous if left alone in a fight. Try to focus him down early.

Life Form Disintegration Ray can be interrupted by stuns, silences and knockups.

Talon vs Vel'Koz Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.1 %
VS
Win Rate
50.9 %
Vel'Koz Image
9
< Kills >
5.7
7.1
< Deaths >
6.3
5.7
< Assists >
9.2
2.02
< Killing Sprees >
1.31
138
< Minions Killed >
97
0.42
< Dragons Killed >
0.07
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.47
21,979
< Physical Damage >
568
78
< Magic Damage >
17,809
1,233
< True Damage >
5,828
23,291
< Damage Dealt >
24,205
28,848
< Damage Taken >
18,499
13,013
< Gold Earned >
10,757
1.36
< Towers >
1.73
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.02
6,613
< Total Healing >
1,850
15,100
< Experience >
12,802
19
< Vision Score >
45
7
< Wards Placed >
20
192
< Time Dealing CC >
209

How to Counter Vel'Koz with Talon in LoL

The stats shown here underscore some influential Talon against Vel'Koz counter statistics that may help us realize the differences between the two. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Vel'Koz’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Vel'Koz. This observation is largely fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon normally has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his matchup does. Commonly, he receives more damage than Vel'Koz. This commonly reflects differing health capacities, but it can also imply that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to escape additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Vel'Koz

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Vel'Koz
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Vel'Koz

Who is Better, Talon or Vel'Koz?

Both League of Legends champions are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Vel'Koz, with a 49.1% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter for Vel'Koz.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Vel'Koz, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a lower difficulty level that makes him a less time consuming character to learn. You should be careful when picking Talon into Vel'Kozas his relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Vel'Koz. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Vel'Koz matchups, Vel'Koz is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Vel'Koz. You will do well by focussing your play on keeping up your CS and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Vel'Koz.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Vel'Koz Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Vel'Koz as Talon, we analyzed 1,651 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Vel'Koz as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Vel'Koz during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average picks up a similar amount of CS as Vel'Koz. Champs who on average don't get many minion kills often don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require many items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values displayed here to do well.

The most crucial items to use in your Talon versus Vel'Koz build consist of Edge of Night, Serylda's Grudge, and Opportunity. When Talon included at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better against Vel'Koz than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 49.1% when countering Vel'Koz with these items in his kit.

To have the greatest chance of crushing Vel'Koz as Talon, you should take the Conqueror, Triumph, Legend: Tenacity, Last Stand, Magical Footwear, and Minion Dematerializer runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune builds that we analyzed for Talon vs Vel'Koz counterpicks, this order of runes yielded the highest win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 49.1% winrate overall.

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