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Talon vs Nocturne

How to Beat Nocturne as Talon in LoLTalon is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Nocturne as Talon

based on 4,254 Talon vs Nocturne matchups
Win Rate
48.5 %
K/D/A
2.08
Pick Rate
5.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of recently ranked League rounds each week. Within our data, Talon fought Nocturne 4254 times. Having so many matchups for Talon vs Nocturne gives us a lot of confidence in our capability to produce informative statistics and a recommended build to annihilate Nocturne. This matchup is relatively uncommon. Talon fights Nocturne in only 5.2% of his games.

Talon vs Nocturne Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a below average job of beating Nocturne. Normally, he wins a acceptable 48.5% of games the champions oppose each other in. In Talon against Nocturne rounds, Talon’s team is 0.0% more probable to gain first blood, implying that he most likely will get first blood versus Nocturne.

Best Talon vs Nocturne Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Sundered SkyBlack CleaverEclipseSerylda's Grudge

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
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R
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W
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Guide to Countering Nocturne as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Nocturne

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Nocturne

Nocturne's Unspeakable Horror is broken with range, so try to save your movement abilities for when he casts it.

Stay close to your allies when Paranoia is cast - there is strength in numbers!

Talon vs Nocturne Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
48.5 %
VS
Win Rate
51.5 %
Nocturne Image
8.7
< Kills >
7.6
7.1
< Deaths >
6.6
6.1
< Assists >
7.9
1.98
< Killing Sprees >
1.74
136
< Minions Killed >
34
0.45
< Dragons Killed >
1.5
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.38
21,791
< Physical Damage >
16,281
78
< Magic Damage >
1,317
1,253
< True Damage >
1,280
23,123
< Damage Dealt >
18,879
28,208
< Damage Taken >
35,959
12,739
< Gold Earned >
12,293
1.37
< Towers >
1.26
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.33
6,366
< Total Healing >
16,474
14,756
< Experience >
13,919
19
< Vision Score >
22
7
< Wards Placed >
6
190
< Time Dealing CC >
539

How to Counter Nocturne with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here clarify several vital Talon vs. Nocturne counter statistics that can help you understand the distinctions between the two. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Nocturne’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Nocturne..

Talon normally has a similar longest kill spree as his matchup does. Commonly, he takes less damage than Nocturne. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities; however, it can also hint that the champion with more health has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Nocturne

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Nocturne
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Nocturne

Who is Better, Talon or Nocturne?

Both League of Legends champs are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when trying to fight Nocturne, with a 48.5% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a bad counter to Nocturne.

While Talon does have a lower winrate compared to Nocturne, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a much greater level of difficulty that makes him a more time consuming champion to develop with. You should be careful when picking Talon into Nocturneas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Nocturne. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Nocturne matchups, Nocturne is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during teamfights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter to Nocturne. You will do well by focussing your tactics on increasing your CS and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Nocturne.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Nocturne Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Nocturne as Talon, we analyzed 4,254 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Nocturne as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Nocturne during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions displayed here, you will increase your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically racks up much more CS relative to Nocturne. Champs who on average don't earn many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be effective, such as support champions. They are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the numbers reported here to do well.

The best items to use in your Talon versus Nocturne build consist of Edge of Night, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon combined at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better when facing Nocturne than with many other common builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average win rate of 48.5% when playing against Nocturne with this build.

To have the greatest likelihood of annihilating Nocturne as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the runes we have analyed for Talon vs Nocturne battles, this set of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 48.5% win rate overall.

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