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How to Win Talon vs Udyr Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Udyr

How to Beat Udyr as Talon in LoLTalon is in the s tier of champions
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How to Beat Udyr as Talon

based on 2,437 Talon vs Udyr matchups
Win Rate
50.5 %
K/D/A
2.29
Pick Rate
3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We generate our matchup statistics from the millions of ranked League matches that we analyze each week. This guide on how to beat Udyr as Talon resulted from an analysis of 2437 ranked rounds where both champs faced each other. This particular counter pairing is relatively rare. Talon fights Udyr in only 3.0% of his rounds.

Talon vs Udyr Matchup Summary

Talon does a ok job of beating Udyr. Typically, he wins a acceptable 50.5% of the time the champs clash against each other in. In Talon vs Udyr matches, Talon’s team is 0.1% more probable to obtain first blood, indicating that he most likely will get first blood against Udyr.

Best Talon vs Udyr Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Gustwalker HatchlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeSerylda's GrudgeAxiom Arc

Optional Items

Edge of NightVoltaic CycloswordSundered SkyProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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E
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W
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W
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Guide to Countering Udyr as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Udyr

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Udyr

After using the more powerful, Awakened version of an ability, Udyr cannot Awaken other abilities for some time.

Udyr has limited ranged options, try to keep distance.

Talon vs Udyr Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
50.5 %
VS
Win Rate
49.5 %
Udyr Image
8.8
< Kills >
5.2
6.5
< Deaths >
5.9
6.1
< Assists >
7.3
1.99
< Killing Sprees >
1.17
141
< Minions Killed >
87
0.44
< Dragons Killed >
1.05
0.35
< Inhibitors >
0.48
22,057
< Physical Damage >
7,882
81
< Magic Damage >
9,523
1,177
< True Damage >
779
23,316
< Damage Dealt >
18,184
27,501
< Damage Taken >
33,182
12,773
< Gold Earned >
11,635
1.45
< Towers >
1.91
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.23
6,436
< Total Healing >
13,437
14,714
< Experience >
14,412
18
< Vision Score >
20
6
< Wards Placed >
6
190
< Time Dealing CC >
2,135

How to Counter Udyr with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page feature several strategic Talon against Udyr matchup statistics that may help you explain the differences between the pair. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Udyr’s KDA ratio of NaN, showing that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Udyr. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon often has a much larger longest killing spree than his foe does. Commonly, he receives less damage than Udyr. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities, yet it can also indicate that the one champion has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Udyr

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Udyr
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Udyr

Who is Better, Talon or Udyr?

Both LoL champs are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when facing off against Udyr, with a 50.5% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter to Udyr.

While Talon does have a higher win rate compared to Udyr, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater learning curve that makes him a more challenging champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Udyras his relative depth means that you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Udyr. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Udyr matchups, Talon is the better champ with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during teamfights.

Talon is a decent counter to Udyr. Make sure you focus your strategy on keeping up your gold income and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Udyr.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Udyr Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Udyr as Talon, we analyzed 2,437 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Udyr as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Talon to counter Udyr during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions displayed above, you will increase your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average accumulates more CS as Udyr. Champs who on average don't get many minion kills typically don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the numbers shown on this page to do well.

The ideal items to use in your Talon versus Udyr build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Serylda's Grudge, and Axiom Arc. When Talon used at least these three items in his build, he performed significantly better countering Udyr than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 50.5% when playing against Udyr with this counter build.

To have the highest chance of vanquishing Udyr as Talon, Talon players should use the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players chose for Talon vs Udyr fights, this composite of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 50.5% winrate overall.

If you would like to view Talon vs Udyr tips and builds for a an individual player tier, feel free to select one from the selection menu provided above. If viewing for the first time, the statistics and guides given are computed using all matches completed with these champs.