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How to Win Talon vs Swain Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Swain

How to Beat Swain as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Swain as Talon

based on 2,911 Talon vs Swain matchups
Win Rate
47.4 %
K/D/A
2.14
Pick Rate
3.6 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We generate our matchup statistics from the millions of rated League rounds that we get from Riot Games every week. Our guide on how to beat Swain as Talon came out of an analysis of 2911 ranked games where both champions clashed against each other. This particular champ pairing is relatively rare. Talon is forced to battle against Swain in only 3.6% of his rounds.

Talon vs Swain Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a poor job of countering Swain. Normally, he wins a lowly 47.4% of the time the champs clash against one another in. In Talon against Swain matches, Talon’s team is 0.1% less expected to earn first blood. This implies that he probably won't be able to get first blood versus Swain.

Best Talon vs Swain Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeSerylda's GrudgeVoltaic Cyclosword

Optional Items

Sundered SkyAxiom ArcEdge of NightHubris

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
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E
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W
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R
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Guide to Countering Swain as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Swain

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Swain

Buying an item with Grievous Wounds will make Swain much easier to kill during his Demonic Ascension.

Swain's passive is very potent if you are immobilized. Make sure to be extra careful around enemies who have immobilizing effects.

High mobility counters all of Swain's basic abilities: Death's Hand does more damage the closer he is, Vision of Empire has a very long delay and Nevermove must start returning back to him to be dangerous.

Talon vs Swain Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
47.4 %
VS
Win Rate
52.6 %
Swain Image
8.7
< Kills >
5.6
7
< Deaths >
6.5
6.3
< Assists >
10.6
1.98
< Killing Sprees >
1.26
136
< Minions Killed >
106
0.4
< Dragons Killed >
0.08
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.45
23,116
< Physical Damage >
1,484
79
< Magic Damage >
20,072
1,253
< True Damage >
860
24,448
< Damage Dealt >
22,418
28,280
< Damage Taken >
31,701
12,729
< Gold Earned >
10,625
1.4
< Towers >
1.81
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.02
6,520
< Total Healing >
9,496
14,619
< Experience >
12,726
18
< Vision Score >
33
7
< Wards Placed >
15
191
< Time Dealing CC >
372

How to Counter Swain with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page emphasize some important Talon vs. Swain counter statistics that may help you appreciate the distinctions between the two. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Swain’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Swain. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon typically has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his enemy does. On average, he takes less damage than Swain. This often reflects differing health capacities, but it can also indicate that the one champ has less agility and thus is unable to escape further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Swain

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Swain
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Swain

Who is Better, Talon or Swain?

Both League champs are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when trying to fight Swain, with a 47.4% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a bad counter for Swain.

While Talon does have a lower winrate than Swain, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less complex champ to develop with. You should expect to face a difficult match when picking Talon into Swainas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Talon also has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Swain. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Swain matchups, Swain is the better champion with a lower win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during team fights.

Talon is a trash counter for Swain. Make sure you focus your play on increasing your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Talon against Swain.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Swain Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Swain as Talon, we analyzed 2,911 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Swain as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon to counter Swain during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions displayed here, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon usually picks up a similar amount of CS relative to Swain. Champions who on average don't get much CS often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as supports. They are able to scale properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically need several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values reported on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to focus on in your Talon versus Swain build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Serylda's Grudge, and Voltaic Cyclosword. When Talon included at least these three items in his build, he did significantly better vs Swain than with many other common builds. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 47.4% battling Swain with these items in his kit.

To have the highest likelihood of annihilating Swain as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune combinations players picked for Talon vs Swain fights, this sequence of runes resulted in the best win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 47.4% winrate overall.

If you need to view Talon x Swain tips and counter builds for a a distinct skill level, feel free to choose one from the selection menu displayed above. If viewing for the first time, the stats and build suggestions given are computed using every match run with both champs.