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Talon vs Thresh

How to Beat Thresh as Talon in LoLTalon is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Thresh as Talon

based on 3,275 Talon vs Thresh matchups
Win Rate
50 %
K/D/A
2.16
Pick Rate
4 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our matchup stats from the millions of recently rated League of Legends matches that we analyze every week. Our guide on how to beat Thresh as Talon resulted from an analysis of 3275 ranked games where both champs clashed against one another. This pairing is somewhat uncommon. Talon is forced to battle against Thresh in only 4.0% of his rounds.

Talon vs Thresh Matchup Summary

Talon does a ok job of countering Thresh. On average, he wins a acceptable 50.0% of matches the champions fight one another in. In Talon versus Thresh rounds, Talon’s team is 0.1% less likely to get first blood. This implies that he probably won't be able to get first blood versus Thresh.

Best Talon vs Thresh Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordCaulfield's Warhammer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Serylda's GrudgeEclipseSundered SkyHubris

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

PrecisionConquerorTriumphLegend: TenacityLast Stand
InspirationMagical FootwearMinion Dematerializer
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
5
W
6
R
7
W
8
Q
9
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Q
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E
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Thresh as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Thresh

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Thresh

Intentionally breaking a wall of The Box can allow a vulnerable ally to escape unscathed.

Thresh's Death Sentence has a long cast time. Watch for the cast to begin to take evasive actions.

Thresh relies on collecting souls for a portion of his defense and damage. Try punishing him when he moves to collect them.

Talon vs Thresh Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
50 %
VS
Win Rate
50 %
Thresh Image
8.2
< Kills >
2.2
6.8
< Deaths >
6.3
6.5
< Assists >
14.5
1.88
< Killing Sprees >
0.41
136
< Minions Killed >
34
0.45
< Dragons Killed >
0.05
0.36
< Inhibitors >
0.5
20,920
< Physical Damage >
1,250
82
< Magic Damage >
7,360
1,224
< True Damage >
795
22,226
< Damage Dealt >
9,406
27,696
< Damage Taken >
22,122
12,634
< Gold Earned >
8,726
1.46
< Towers >
1.81
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
6,469
< Total Healing >
2,435
14,587
< Experience >
10,803
18
< Vision Score >
58
6
< Wards Placed >
25
193
< Time Dealing CC >
264

How to Counter Thresh with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here show some critical Talon versus Thresh counter stats that can help us appreciate the differences and similarities between the two. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Thresh’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Thresh. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon usually has a much larger longest kill spree than his opponent does. On average, he takes more damage than Thresh. This often reflects differing health capacities, but it can also imply that the one champ has less mobility and thus is unable to escape additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Thresh

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Thresh
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Thresh

Who is Better, Talon or Thresh?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when playing against Thresh, with a 50.0% win rate. As a result, Talon makes an ok counter to Thresh.

While Talon does have a higher winrate compared to Thresh, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more challenging champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Threshas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Thresh. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Thresh matchups, Thresh is the better champ with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during late stage team fights.

Talon is a decent counter to Thresh. You will do well by focussing your tactics on maximizing your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Thresh.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Thresh Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Thresh as Talon, we analyzed 3,275 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Thresh as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Thresh during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and stats shown here, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon most often accumulates much more CS compared to Thresh. Champs who on average don't get many minion kills often don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually need many items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the values shown here to do well.

The most important items to use in your Talon versus Thresh build include Edge of Night, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon included at least these three items in his build, he did much better against Thresh than with many other typical counter builds. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 50.0% when countering Thresh with this counter build.

To have the greatest probability of annihilating Thresh as Talon, Talon players should use the Conqueror, Triumph, Legend: Tenacity, Last Stand, Magical Footwear, and Minion Dematerializer runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune sets players picked for Talon vs Thresh clashes, this set of runes yielded the highest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 50.0% win rate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Thresh as Talon are given for all ranked divisions. If you would like to narrow the stats and builds to a specific rank, you can use the selection menu located earlier on the page.